On 2 September 2010 17:40, Roan Kattouw <roan.katt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2010/9/3 Aryeh Gregor <simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com>:
>> * Shut down the secret staff IRC channel.  Development discussion can
>> take place in #mediawiki, ops in #wikimedia-tech, other stuff in
>> #wikimedia or whatever.  If users interfere with ops' discussions
>> sometimes in #wikimedia-tech during outages or such, set all sysadmins
>> +v and set the channel +m as necessary.  That's worked in the past.
> You're assuming that development discussions actually take place in
> these channels, which is not the case. We mostly use them for
> chit-chat and private or office-related things. Questions like "how
> should I design X in my code" very rarely show up in these channels,
> and I don't think anyone would have a problem with being more
> conscious about this and moving to a public place for such a
> discussion.
>


I don't think he is making that assumption, lots of chit-chat happens
on any channel — it makes us feel left out if you have a special one
(humans are really bad at the jealousy thing). What "private or
office-related" things are there that you can't share with developers?

Conrad

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