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In article <18849937.7157.1297583642909.javamail.r...@benjamin.baylink.com>,
Jay Ashworth  <j...@baylink.com> wrote:
> > Yeah, secure.wikimedia.org's URL scheme isn't really friendly
> > to outsiders. Historically, this is because SSL certificates are
> > expensive, and there just wasn't enough money in the budget
> > to get more of them for the top-level domains. Maybe this isn't
> > the case anymore.
 
> Is that in fact the root cause, Chad?  I assumed, myself, that it's because
> of the squid architecture.

LVS is in front of Squid, so it would be fairly simple to send SSL 
traffic (port 443) to a different machine; which is how secure.wm.o 
works now, except that instead of using LVS, it requires a different 
hostname.

However, I think the idea is not to start allowing
https://en.wikipedia.org URLs until there's a better SSL infrastructure 
which can handle the extra load an easy-to-use, widely advertised SSL 
gateway is likely to create.  secure.wm.o is currently a single machine 
and sometimes falls over, e.g. when Squid breaks for some reason and 
people notice that secure still works.

SSL certificates aren't that cheap, but only about 8 would be needed 
(one for each project, e.g. *.wikipedia.org), so the cost isn't 
prohibitive anymore.

        - river.
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