On 8 June 2012 07:33, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 8 June 2012 11:49, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I have never said that moving to IPv6 is a bad idea. What I am > > complaining about is the dismissive attitude taken toward the volunteers > > that are stuck cleaning up the mess when Engineering decides to do > > something, apparently on the spur of the moment, without telling anyone > > outside their own little walled garden. > > > No, at this point you're just being deliberate rude. People have > already noted on this thread that this has been in the works for > years, whether you were listening or not. > >
The problem was never IPv6. The problem was always about the unspoken expectation that everyone else would just drop everything else they have going on to patch up all the stuff that got broken as a result of this sudden change. I get that this was an exciting step for the engineers who got it done, and I tip my hat to all of them for pulling it off; from that sense it's been a successful implementation. I also get that at least 30% of WMF users on hundreds of projects -that's roughly how many use one or more gadgets, scripts or tools that didn't work after this switch - have now had their "editing experience" negatively affected, and that almost all of it could have been avoided with a month or two of notice so that patches could be written and resources could be put into place in advance. One has to hope this was a knowledge gap and that Engineering did not actually know the extent to which it would impact the projects and the end-users. Engineering has worked very hard over the last couple of years to improve its communication processes, to re-integrate with the various communities, and to become more responsive to the hundreds of volunteers who work on engineering projects as well as the tens of thousands who use the product on WMF sites. This has made a big difference in the acceptance and success of its innovations and work. It's really sad to see the reversion to the deprecated pattern of poor communication over such a significant and important change. Risker _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
