That is not a good comparison whatsoever. There's *no way* I or anybody else has the time or patience to sort through a thousand line plain text file, with automated bot messages, every day just to see if an important conversation was missed. And even if the IRC logs were in some nice pretty format, it's still inconvenient to have to check an additional site. Also, it doesn't allow you to continue the discussion, whereas in the mailing list you can always just reply.
IRC should only be used for what it's specifically made for: realtime chat, i.e., when you need a question answered now or when the delayed email style messaging isn't enough. For anything else that doesn't fit in that category, stick to the mailing list. *--* *Tyler Romeo* Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 Major in Computer Science www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Petr Bena <benap...@gmail.com> wrote: > But you have logs from irc discussions just as you have your emails - > all developer channels are publicly logged > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Tyler Romeo <tylerro...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Also, with the exception of asking for technical help, I don't really > like > > IRC for developer discussion, and it's not just because I don't go on > IRC. > > What if you're not online at the time of the discussion? You're > completely > > left out; no, even worse, you have no idea the discussion even took > place. > > This really sucks for important discussions. Whereas on the mailing list, > > it's always in your inbox, not to mention various mailing list archivers > > will preserve the discussion forever. > > > > tl;dr - If this person isn't even a part of the mailing list, I doubt > > there's much more IRC can do to help him. > > > > *--* > > *Tyler Romeo* > > Stevens Institute of Technology, Class of 2015 > > Major in Computer Science > > www.whizkidztech.com | tylerro...@gmail.com > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Brian Wolff <bawo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On 2013-02-27 8:30 AM, "Petr Bena" <benap...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > as Gry in #wikipedia recently mentioned, there is no IRC channel for > >> > general wikimedia developer purposes - project wide and language wide. > >> > > >> > There are subchannels for certain projects, but no general channel for > >> > wikimedia devs of all kinds from all projects. > >> > > >> > I suppose we could use #wikimedia-dev as a general channel for all > >> > developers no matter of project or programming language. What do you > >> > think? > >> > > >> > Bellow is a message written by Gry who doesn't want to be part of this > >> > mailing list > >> > > >> > ------- from gry@irc://irc.freenode.net/#wikipedia --------- > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > Could we make an IRC channel dedicated to development of software for > >> > wikimedia projects (bots, js tools like twinkle, irc bots, etc)? Some > >> > people who work on some software for few wikimedia projects would > >> > likely benefit if they had a place to discuss its implementation, > >> > other than just ask #wikipedia (the largest channel of all). As the > >> > questions may get more tricky at times, a smaller, more > >> > development-minded channel could be a tad more effective at actually > >> > helping (regardless of what project they're from, be that wikipedia or > >> > wikibooks or something else). > >> > > >> > There currently is #wikimedia-dev which actually is a place for > >> > #mediawiki devs to meet, but they're not too happy with two channels > >> > either [1] and it could be possible to discuss a take over. Or > >> > otherwise a new channel named, say, #wikimedia-devel. > >> > >> The people who arent happy with two channels are going to be happier > with > >> 3? > >> > >> What's #wikimedia-tech used for now a days? From what I gather it is > used > >> for general technical help on wikimedia projects, which sounds kind of > in > >> the same direction as what you are suggesting (disclaimer: I don't > >> generally idle/join that channel, so dont really know) > >> > >> -bawolff > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikitech-l mailing list > >> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
