On Friday, April 5, 2013, phoebe ayers wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > On 5 April 2013 19:07, Lydia Pintscher 
> > <lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de<javascript:;>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 1:00 AM, MZMcBride 
> > > <z...@mzmcbride.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > > > Sorry, I don't know what this means. I thought Wikidata was already
> > > > deployed to the English Wikipedia (and possibly other projects as
> > well).
> > >
> > > I've posted an announcement with more details on the technical village
> > > pump at
> > >
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Wikidata_phase_2_is_coming_soon
> > > Let me know if anything is still unclear so I can clarify.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Lydia
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Lydia, could you please point me to the discussion on *English Wikipedia*
> > where the community indicated an interest in deploying this software?
> > Infoboxes and sourcing to another website completely outside the control
> of
> > English Wikipedia is a rather big issue, and I would expect to see a
> > Request for Comment with at least 200-300 participants.
> >
> > Risker/Anne
> >
>
> In my opinion, as a casual Wikidata editor and not-so-casual Wikipedia
> editor, I think the Commons analogy continues to hold up pretty well.
> Commons exists. We can use it, as a project. We don't *have* to (and indeed
> don't always, on en:wp, where fair use images are accepted). As I
> understand it, the same is true with Wikidata -- it will be around, if and
> when it seems appropriate to use.


Yes, it works exactly the same. The deployment means that a wiki has the
option to use Wikidata. Not that it has to. The RFC, if any, should be
about a policy on how to use Wikidata features provided by this deployment.
Do we want to mass transition info boxes? Trial on a certain number? Should
we disallow use of properties outside templates?



> Of course Commons and Wikidata will both
> be more useful and more awesome the more projects do use them. But my very
> non-technical understanding of this deployment is that basically we made
> the projects able to see that Wikidata exists (correct me if I'm wrong!)
>
> Now as far as I can tell there's a whole lot of work yet to do in order to
> figure out how exactly one might link to data or produce an infobox and
> what that might look like -- deployment does not seem to mean ready for
> prime-time, yet -- and of course the data-building itself is just barely
> getting started. Best practices for infoboxes does seem like a project-wide
> RFC to me. But hopefully, when we get to that point, wikidata will be a
> useful option.
>
> -- phoebe
>
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