So I've been trying to implement the suggestions and I think I'm one step away from seeing results. I've got Wikibase and all its dependancies set up, I've got mobile frontend installed (but commented out for the moment).
I can't figure out how to get some Wikidata style data on to my local installation to see how it looks on a mobile though! If somebody could point me in the right direction, I'll do that and will set up a local tunnel to share the results (if any!). That should give me some information and I should be able to draft a rough proposal with the project needs! On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Jon Robson <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote: > Pragun: It's still a work in progress. > > I personally think it would be great to have different mobile skins as > all our projects have different needs and don't necessarily need > to/should look the same or behave the same. > > I'd happily work closely to you (help with code review etc) to support > such a move. > > If you were to take this approach you'd create an extension that > depends on MobileFrontend and extends SkinMobile / SkinMobileBase > class overriding certain functions. In a LocalSettings.php you'd be > able to configure it as the default mobile skin on your wiki. > > You can check out the current state of the code/my mind here: > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/58997/ > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Pragun Bhutani <pragu...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I'll go ahead and request that Wikilabs account then. If I get stuck > > somewhere, I'll revert back to you. > > > > Also Jon, could you tell me a little more about your work on the skin? Is > > it possible for me to view the code? > > > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Jon Robson <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I've been doing some work on refactoring the mobile skin. > >> > >> In theory when I'm done doing this (I need some help code reviewing) you > >> would be able to write your own mobile skin with its own modules and own > >> scripts.... simply by extending some classes in MobileFrontend > extension. > >> > >> Does this sound appealing at all? > >> On 17 Apr 2013 08:02, "Brion Vibber" <br...@pobox.com> wrote: > >> > >> > What you probably want to do is *integrate with* MobileFrontend, but > keep > >> > your code within WikiBase extension and friends. > >> > > >> > There's provisions now for specifying desktop or mobile targets > >> separately > >> > in ResourceLoader, which will let you load either the same or > different > >> CSS > >> > and JS for mobile views. You could also format your special pages > >> > differently, but I recommend doing the differences in CSS and JS if > you > >> > can, to keep things clean. > >> > > >> > But you could also detect that mobile view is in use and change the > >> > formatting of a Special: page directly, for instance. > >> > > >> > From what I remember, the base HTML of the data editing forms is > >> relatively > >> > straightforward, but might not fit well on small screens, so > definitely > >> > consider the user-interface needs of a ~320x480px screen when planning > >> what > >> > to do. :) > >> > > >> > -- brion > >> > > >> > > >> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Denny Vrandečić < > >> > denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > >> > > >> > > 2013/4/10 Pragun Bhutani <pragu...@gmail.com> > >> > > > >> > > > Based on a discussion I had with YuviPanda and MaxSem on > >> > > #wikimedia-mobile, > >> > > > I've got a few things to add: > >> > > > > >> > > > - It might be a good idea to let Wikidata detect when it's being > >> > accessed > >> > > > through a mobile device and then have it adjust the widths and > such > >> of > >> > > the > >> > > > box-structures accordingly and then pass them to MobileFrontend. > >> > > > > >> > > > Maybe we can set up a Wikilabs instance with MobileFrontend like > Quim > >> > Gil > >> > > > suggested and then we can see how much work there is involved with > >> > trying > >> > > > to make WIkidata mobile-friendly. > >> > > > > >> > > > If we can get it to work with MobileFrontend, that'll be excellent > >> but > >> > if > >> > > > it turns out to be too complex or too dirty a solution, it would > make > >> > > more > >> > > > sense to make a completely new extension for it. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > I think that sounds like a good plan. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Although the scope of the project is not very clear at the > moment, I > >> > > think > >> > > > that a feasible implementation plan could be worked out with > respect > >> to > >> > > the > >> > > > GSoC timeline and if it's required, I can continue to work on the > >> > project > >> > > > after GSoC ends. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > I am glad to hear that. But I think it would be important to scope > the > >> > > project so that it can be finished in GSoC time - but obviously, > >> further > >> > > work on it afterwards will be gladly appreciated. > >> > > > >> > > So, let's consider what should be working: > >> > > * create a mobile site for Wikidata > >> > > * displays the content in a layout that is more adequate for mobile > >> > devices > >> > > * retains different language versions > >> > > * Bonus: easy to edit > >> > > > >> > > First step would be to figure out the exact technology to use, i.e. > >> > whether > >> > > it would use the MobileFrontend or not, etc. We would help with > setting > >> > it > >> > > up on labs. > >> > > > >> > > Cheers, > >> > > Denny > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Quim Gil <q...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > On 04/09/2013 02:39 AM, Denny Vrandečić wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> I would hope > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > It would also be extremely good to look > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I would assume > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I don't think > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Can the Wikidata and Mobile teams please answer with the best of > >> your > >> > > > > knowledge to the questions at > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Bug 43065 - WikibaseRepo to be mobile friendly (tracking) > >> > > > > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.**org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065< > >> > > > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43065> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Beyond hope and believe, the fact is that I couldn't get any > answer > >> > > more > >> > > > > precise than "Interesting" when asking about this project to > people > >> > in > >> > > > > those teams. And as for today I'm not confident to tell to a > >> > candidate > >> > > > like > >> > > > > Pragun whether this project is too complex or too simple, and > where > >> > the > >> > > > > complexity/simplicity relies. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > In case of doubt I'd prefer to play safe and actually not > encourage > >> > > GSOC > >> > > > / > >> > > > > OPW to apply for a project like this, before we regret around > >> August. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Is it possible to have a Wikidata / WikidataRepo test instance > >> > > somewhere > >> > > > > with MobileFrontend enabled, so we can all have a look and know > >> more > >> > > > about > >> > > > > the gap this project should fill? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > -- > >> > > > > Quim Gil > >> > > > > Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation > >> > > > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**User:Qgil< > >> > > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > >> > > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > >> > > > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l< > >> > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l> > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > -- > >> > > > Pragun Bhutani > >> > > > http://pragunbhutani.in > >> > > > Skype : pragun.bhutani > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > >> > > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Project director Wikidata > >> > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin > >> > > Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de > >> > > > >> > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens > e.V. > >> > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts > Berlin-Charlottenburg > >> > unter > >> > > der Nummer 23855 B. 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