Steven Walling wrote: >You're leaving out two key facts here: > > 1. The 'VectorBeta' change is to create an _opt-in_ beta for typography > changes, as part of the release of BetaFeatures extension. We'd only be > providing something to users who want to try this font stack. It's a > choice they get to make, and in that sense I think it's a little wrong > for us to dictate anything based solely on ideology.
Why is this a key fact? Will we soon be allowing users to opt in to Facebook "like" buttons, Google Analytics, and "all rights reserved" copyright for their contributions? I don't think making something optional somehow makes it a better idea. In the case of MediaWiki, by using sans-serif, aren't we specifically not dictating to users what to use? I don't follow your logic here. > 2. This beta font stack for desktop is based primarily on our mobile > font stack, which is already the default seen by all mobile readers and > editors on Wikimedia projects. People keep saying "traditionally" we > have not specified a real font stack, but the truth is we abandoned > that tradition going back to October 2012: > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/10/24/wikipedia-mobile-gets-a-new-look/ This makes no sense to me. Why should we be following mobile's trends? The mobile site currently intentionally disables anonymous editing (a direct violation of core Wikimedia principles). It also contains a number of other questionable design decisions, much as its predecessors did. Would you say we abandoned the tradition of allowing anonymous editing simply because of the mobile team's questionable design decision? Again, I have difficulty following your logic here. I think when people say "traditionally," they mean "with the exception of the mobile team, which doesn't seem to care about adhering to Wikimedia or MediaWiki design philosophies." Yes, you can find plenty of other examples of the mobile team doing things like this, but that hardly seems like a good reason to import those choices into desktop. MZMcBride _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
