Prior to TOR being enabled we need to be able to flag both logged in and
logged out edits made via TOR.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Brian Wolff <bawo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Oct 1, 2014 11:40 AM, "Brad Jorsch (Anomie)" <bjor...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Brian Wolff <bawo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Oct 1, 2014 10:55 AM, "Risker" <risker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > This is something that has to be discussed *on the projects
> themselves*,
> > > > not on mailing lists that have (comparatively) very low participation
> by
> > > > active editors.
> > >
> > > Unless people want to trial on mw.org (assuming there is dev buy in,
> not
> > > sure we are there yet)
> > >
> >
> > Does mw.org receive the level of vandalism and other unhelpful edits
> (where
> > people would like to use Tor to avoid IP blocking in making those edits)
> > that it would make for a useful test?
>
> If we are testing something potentially very disruptive, no harm starting
> small. At the very least it would show if we could enable tor on mw.org.
> The results could help decide if further testing on more "real" wikis is
> justified.
>
> >
> > >  > There also needs to be a good answer to the "attribution problem"
> that
> > > has
> > > > long been identified as a secondary concern related to Tor and other
> > > proxy
> > > > systems.  The absence of a good answer to this issue may be
> sufficient in
> > > > itself to derail any proposed trial.
> > >
> > > Which problem is that?
> > >
> >
> > If I understand it correctly, right now we attribute edits made without
> an
> > account to the IP address. Allowing edits via Tor should probably not be
> > attributing such edits to the exit node's IP.
> >
>
> This quite frankly seems like a contrived problem. A random (normal) ip
> address hardly associates an edit to a person unless you steal an isps
> records. Wait a year and it would probably be impossible to figure out who
> owned some random dynamic ip address no matter how hard you tried. I dont
> think attributing edits to an exit node introduces any new attribution
> issues that are not already present.
>
> --bawolff
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