Thanks for sharing this, Risker. If I were a casual contributor, I'm not sure that I would attend either--not because I'd expect that Wikimedia conferences/hackathons would necessarily be worse than other tech conferences, but because I'd have no reason to expect them to be better.
Same with our online spaces: I was hesitant to apply to the internship that started me contributing technically because I'd observed profoundly unfriendly open source projects and had also been bitten on enwiki, and I expected the technical spaces to be similar. I'm glad I did apply. Since then, I've been able to work with some wonderful people here and I've made contributions I'm proud of for a cause I support. I would like to be able to point the next person with similar worries to a community-supported code of conduct as a reassurance that the community as a whole will have their back even if one or a few individuals treat them poorly. -Frances On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Risker <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: > David, thanks for this find. > > THIS is why the Code of Conduct is needed. I recognized myself in this > blog. I remembered avoiding any aspect of socialization at conferences I > had to attend for work, and simply didn't even consider attending > conferences for any other purpose. I remembered how readily "the guys" > assumed that any woman there was there for more than just networking and > learning. I remembered having my butt pinched, my breasts "accidentally > touched", my questions ignored or laughed at. I remember how the buzz of > background conversation is always much louder when the speaker is a woman > than when the speaker is a man. > > It's changed for me. Not because there's any less of all of this going on. > No, it's because my hair is grey and I'm now old enough to be the mom of > half the people in the room at any male-dominated conferences I attend; and > outside of Wikimedia events, the conferences I go to are usually full of > conservative businesswomen, and alcohol is rarely involved. > > So yeah...you need a code of conduct. Because if I was even 15 years > younger, I'd never go to a Wikimedia conference. > > Risker/Anne > > On 22 August 2015 at 20:03, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I saw this today, I wonder if it's relevant to the thread: > > > > > > > http://www.perpendicularangel.com/2015/08/no-i-dont-trust-your-conference-without-a-code-of-conduct/ > > > > Of course we're talking about stuff beyond conferences, but it still > > applies I'd think. > > > > > > - d. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l