On Friday, April 1, 2016, C. Scott Ananian <canan...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Arlo actually implemented the Parsoid side of this: > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T50891 <3 > We still need VE support: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55974 Cool, will concentrate my efforts there. :) I hope we can figure out a nice intermediate behavior that keeps the annotations and doesn't act too surprising to the user. I can't dedicate huge amounts of time to it but would be happy to help where I can. -- brion --scott > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Gregory Varnum <gregory.var...@gmail.com > <javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > I think improving VE to understand translate, and expanding the > > training/documentation for translate are the best next steps. This is > also > > a problem on Meta-Wiki. > > > > Removing the translate setup from the pages seems problematic as we're > > trying to make info available in languages beyond just English. > > > > -greg > > > > _______________ > > Sent from my iPhone - a more detailed response may be sent later. > > > > > On Apr 1, 2016, at 9:49 AM, Brion Vibber <bvib...@wikimedia.org > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > So based on notes from Niklas on the bug, it looks like there are two > > main > > > problems: > > > > > > 1) VE treats <translate>...</translate> chunks as uneditable extension > > > blobs. > > > > > > 2) Some/many pages use <translate>...</translate> incorrectly: spanning > > > paragraphs, markup level boundaries, etc. > > > > > > > > > So problem 1) can be improved in two ways: > > > 1a) Have VE treat <translate>...</translate> as more or less like > > plaintext > > > or a div or something > > > 1b) Much fancier sub-document editing > > > > > > Fixing problem 2) means refactoring broken pages in ways that > presumably > > > would require at least some of their translations to be re-created. > > > > > > I don't know whether 2) is caused by problems in the translation > > interface, > > > or by people further editing the pages without a detailed understanding > > of > > > how the <translate> and <!--T:123--> markup bits work, or a combination > > of > > > both. > > > > > > -- brion > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Brion Vibber <bvib...@wikimedia.org > <javascript:;>> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 7:35 PM, C. Scott Ananian < > > canan...@wikimedia.org <javascript:;>> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Proper VE/Parsoid support for the <translate> extension has been > wanted > > >>> for > > >>> a while now. It hasn't made a list of quarterly goals yet. Help > > wanted, > > >>> certainly. > > >> > > >> This is a HUGELY important dogfooding goal; we need to be able to edit > > the > > >> wiki about our own product! > > >> > > >> Anything we can do to help out? > > >> > > >> -- brion > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > > > > > > -- > (http://cscott.net) > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
