On 2 Nov 2006 at 13:07, Wayne Johnson wrote:

> At 11:47 AM 11/2/2006, Bernie Cosell typed:
> >1)  Why would having the WEP/SSID settings apply to ALL of the wireless
> >interfaces be insecure?  I think this is just a broken choice on MS's
> >part.
> 
> I disagree as I believe it was a conscious decision to do the way 
> that they have it.

Would you elaborate as to *WHY* having all of your wireless devices share 
WEP info is a security problem?

> ... I also don't think that MSFT had that much to do 
> with setting up the specs for WEP & WPA security protocols or how 
> they were to be implemented which I also believe is part of the 
> encryption specs.

But how can it say anything about how those keys are administered??  When 
I type in my key into the wireless app that is asking me for the WEP key, 
regardless of what 802.11 says about what *happens* to the key, it surely 
can't say where, and how, the key is *stored*.. can it?


> >2) Not necessarily: if that info were kept encrypted in some registry key
> >or something, I could conceivably copy it to the corresponding place for
> >my other wireless card, and even though I cannot see or change the WEP, I
> >could "enable" that network on my other wireless card.

[...]

> Personally I believe that it is locked in the wireless router or ap 
> to their MAC addie & does NOT appear in the registry at all other 
> than the hard & software exist.

Ah, now *that's* a reason I can get my head around..:o)  I can see if it 
is the case [unlike, for example, when I give a password to my browser to 
enter a domain or mount a drive, or to my sftp client to authenticate me] 
the key information is actually passed to the *device* and isn't stored 
on the computer at all that that'd make it tricky to transfer the WEP 
keys to a new device and that's interesting.  I can't easily try it [only 
one computer that's handy has a PCMCIA slot], but the consequence of that 
situation is that if I took out my wireless card and plugged it into 
another computer, it would come up all authenticated and ready to go.  
Odd, but I think that *THAT"S* a security problem [and one I hadn't 
realized was lurking there].... I need to take more careful care of my 
pcmcia wireless card than I thought I did..:o)  [and also, if I 
sell/passon my wireless card, I'll need to take steps to ensure that it 
"forgets" all of its hidden keys, something that wouldn't have occurred 
to me.]

   /Bernie\
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