Okay, NVDA does not have mouse movement commands as say found with the Mouse
Movement commands and Window-Eyes.

NVDA does however have tools which allow manipulation of the mouse, we're
talking here of the Review Cursor and the Screen Navigator, you can see all
keystrokes which control these functions in the NVDA Quick Refrence
available from the NVDA Help menu.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of chris h (sky)
Sent: Monday, 4 March 2013 11:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: NVDA

Hello Gordon
unfortunately Nvda has very few ways of interacting with the mouse. 
First, there is no virtual mouse pointer like there is in Window-Eyes or
System Access for that matter, or be it with limited functionality when I
last used it. Back to Nvda, there is an add-on which may help, Vmouse, which
you can search for. I think it's £3 and they accept payments by Paypal only.
So in short, you cannot navigate the mouse with Nvda without the use of
third party add-ons like the above. Instead you use what are called object
navigation and flat review. The user guide, available from the help menu,
will explain all this to you. You can also use the Commands Quick Reference,
also available in the help menu, to get yourself familiar with keys for
object navigation and flat review.
Now for System Access, I understand they have a virtual mouse feature,
accessed with modifier-m. You can basically navigate the text on the screen,
as well as interact with objects, including left and right clicking where
appropriate. But this may have changed from when I last used it, which was
last year. Unfortunately I had to stop using System Access as MalwareBytes
Pro reported what I believe to be false positives with some of the
components that are to do with System Access. So for my own security I
abandoned it. This was a shame really as I quite liked what both System
Access and the System Access Mobile Network offered.
Hope this all helps.
Chris.

On 04/03/2013 11:11, Gordon Smith wrote:
> Hi all
>
> OK, I've taken the plunge.  I have removed, permanently, my copy of
Window-Eyes from both my Asus eEPC net rook, and my Samgsung 17-inch
notebook/laptop/Desktop.  The latter is a quite wonderful machine and I hav
already tried using it with one of my play out/studio packages, "Station
Playlist & Studio Pro.  I also plan to try it with SAM Broadcaster 2013
which, I am happy to say, no longer uses non-Windows control elements and
which, with Window-Eyes at least, I have found to be extremely accessible.
>
> But the reason for this message is to pose what some will, I am sur,
consider to be a very basic NVDA question.  For that, I am sorry.  However,
nevertheless, here goes:
>
> 1.  How, with the exception of software which allows cursor movement and
other inbuilt navigation controls, can one intuitively and reliably,
navigate the screen in the same way as Window-Eyes does.  That meaning how
does one move, and use, the mouse pointer in order to click on elements
whose properties need to be both verbalised and where there are elements
such as combo boxes, radio buttons buttons and other clickable events which
are ussable with NVDA?
>
> For example, to simplify this, a piece of software such as OTS AV DH
requires mouse navigation in order to both modify the properties of, and
also add that element to a user-definable position within your playlist?
>
> Now that Window-Eyes jus confined to the history books as far as I am
concerned, my use of Window will require either NVDA or Systen Access. Lynne
bought me a stand-alone licence for System Access, so this will hopefully
provide me with enough options for both my professional requirements, and my
personal ones.
>
> How then does one navigate by moving the mouse pointer when using NVDA
and, if it is possible, also System Access?  The latter seems very
restrictive in terms of its interaction with all but the most basic
software.  However, I am more than happy with my available options.  I am
only too happy to be shot of Window-Eyes!
>
> As I write, I am awaiting the authorisation letter from Access To Work so
that my equipment can b purchased.  The case manager has already confirmed
that the items I requested will be the items I receive.  So I guess I got
lucky.  Later this week all being well, I will be the proud user of a
Humanware Apex BrailleNote.  I am also awaiting the arrival of a Freedom
Scientific Pearl camera, plus the Openbook 9 software.  I'm hoping that the
Pearl will function with other software as well on both Windows and OS X.
Anyway, if anybody can answer my questions if, that is, they can make sense
of my babbling, I'd be very grateful.
>
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