Not much bothered until you can't access what you want <smile>.
On 28/04/2013, at 6:23 PM, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" <[email protected]> wrote: > Gordon says he's not much bothered. HP probably wouldn't listen anyway. > > Lynne > > On 28 Apr 2013, at 08:08, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Okay, its unlikely of course but I would contact the manufacturer and see if >> a downgrade to Windows 7 is available for Gordon's machine, as I say its not >> likely now given that Windows 8 has been with us for 6 months but it can't >> hurt to try. >> >> If 1 is not available then you'll have to make the best of it I guess. >> >> >> On 28/04/2013, at 5:05 PM, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> NVDA caused some kind of system error when we installed it just now and >>> those horrendous robotic voices it uses should have been dumped years ago. >>> Why they cannot use the default system voice is beyond me. >>> >>> However, Gordon has no option really as Windows 8 X64 Pro is on his new >>> laptop which he will be getting later this week. >>> >>> On 28 Apr 2013, at 07:53, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I've not had any need to use Windows 8 yet but would like to make the >>>> following observations based upon others I know well who use the system, >>>> those I can count on my fingers and they all say one thing, - for the time >>>> being - don't use windows 8 if you can avoid doing so. >>>> >>>> if you must use Windows 8 then it is suggested that you use the NVDA >>>> Screen Reader with it as it would appear to be the best accessible >>>> solution for windows 8 around at this time. >>>> >>>> Now bare in mind that what you see in Windows 8 now may not be what you >>>> see in Windows 8 come 3 months time. >>>> >>>> If you've had a quick look at the system then you'll no doubt be aware >>>> that the "Stat Menue" we're all familiar with has disappeared. >>>> >>>> The removal of the "Start Menu" hasn't gone down too well with the public >>>> so Microsoft will be reintroducing it again in a major update for Windows >>>> 8 to be released sometime in July. >>>> >>>> That will mean some adjustments on behalf of all Screen Reader developers. >>>> >>>> Again, what I've written - apart from the update stuff which I read in an >>>> article - is from other users of the Windows 8 system, I'll most likely go >>>> down that road at some stage myself but at the moment I have only 1 >>>> computer here which would really support Windows 8 well enough for me to >>>> get the real use out of the interface so I'm not in any hurry and its >>>> interesting enough to just watch and hear what's happening. >>>> >>>> A comment from GW Micro is that with the introduction of Windows 8 as it >>>> is Microsoft have taken a step backwards when it comes to accessibility, >>>> apparently all the people at Microsoft who knew what they were doing - >>>> thanks to the excellent work that Gw Micro did with Microsoft some time >>>> back - have nearly all gone so its "retraining" time again for want of a >>>> better description. >>>> >>>> So the advice for what its worth in summary, - where you can - downgrade >>>> your Notebook or whatever to Windows 7 and if you must use Windows 8 then >>>> use NVDA, I've no knowledge of how accessible or otherwise System Access >>>> is with Windows 8 but - going on the reputation of System Access - I'd >>>> think it be quite reasonable at the very least. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 28/04/2013, at 3:30 PM, "Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith" >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello everybody >>>>> >>>>> Well I have read a lot of stuff, good and bad, regarding Windows 8.So >>>>> with the arrival of Gordon's new laptop, (provided for him by work) only >>>>> days away, I decided to take the plunge and we installed Windows 8 into a >>>>> virtual machine last night. >>>>> >>>>> Although we have merely scratched the surface so far, I have to say that >>>>> Narrator has come on leaps and bounds since Windows 7. We plan on >>>>> installing System Access and NVDA this morning so hopefully Gordon can >>>>> get the feel of things before the crunch comes. >>>>> >>>>> Any comment based on actual experience, favourable or otherwise, welcome. >>>>> >>>>> Lynne >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ======================================= >>>>> >>>>> To post to this group, please send your message to: >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> The Windows-Access E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, >>>>> virus and worm-free >>>>> >>>>> To modify your subscription options, please visit your personalise >>>>> subscriber options page, located at >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/windows-access >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Windows-Access >>>>> forum at either of the following websites: >>>>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/windows-access/index.html >>>>> Or: >>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. 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