Hi Mike

With Window-Eyes version 6 and later, Remote Access via Citrix or Microsoft 
Remote Terminal services is built-in, if you own a Professional license to the 
product.

Actually though, as I understand it, Window-Eyes is being given its long 
overdue total rewrite, which will obviously be a paid upgrade when it is 
released.  But finally, it seems, GW Micro has acknowledge the horrendous 
latency introduced by Window-Eyes with its huge footprint.  If they are now 
producing true 64-bit code, I am sure that we will see dramatically improved 
responsiveness throughout the entire product, not just with remote sessions.

But I am about to see whether or not I can install it into my Windows 8.1 
native system, as I only have a full setup of Window-Eyes 8.2 and the current 
version, the one being distributed free of charge, is version 8.4.  Anybody who 
owns a license to Windows 8.1 and/or Microsoft Office 2010 or later 
automatically qualifies for a free license to Window-Eyes.  I will contact GW 
Micro as I am keen to retain my registered serial number if possible.

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On 26 Jul 2014, at 22:58, Mike Stopka <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Gordon

I am curious to see what your point of view is if you get when doors to work do 
you have to pay extra for the RDP in Citrix access I need to do that with my 
jaws as well so I will see what happens I'm going to have the money to upgrade 
to and at the features I'm running 15 and I get 16 anyway but will review my 
SMEs when I get the chance and by the Adams just have them figured it would be 
better for job's point of view anyway

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> On Jul 26, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike
> 
> Were it not for the fact that Window-Eyes 8.2 won’t install under Windows 8.1 
> natively, allowing you to upgrade to 8.4, my problem would be solved.  I have 
> it installed on my Windows 7 system, but the last time I tried it on 8.1 I 
> got a lot of errors.
> 
> I’ll give it another go actually, just to be sure.  Jaws remote access 
> technologies cost £125.00 GBP per license which, presumably, means that you 
> can only use it to access similarly licensed servers.  Citrix is natively 
> slow, Mike, even without a screen-reader.  It’s old technology which should 
> have been scrapped years ago and re-written.  Microsoft Terminal Services do 
> not have a large footprint and they are much much faster, allowing you to do 
> most or all the things you can do under Citrix, apart from having access to 
> Main Frame computers.
> 
> I shall go get my 8.2 Window-Eyes CD now and give that a go again.
> 
> Kindest regards
> 
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> On 23 Jul 2014, at 16:31, Mike Stopka <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gordon, in the jaws you do have to buy the Citrix and remote access and 
> NVDA they still have not implemented anything as of yet I know it can be done 
> but it's very slow and that's all very bleeding edge code but as far as I 
> know it's not she implemented into NVDA yet I was just looking into the same 
> thing for a home server here's well and I'm can have to buy the Citrix and 
> the draws remote access lucky for me I got into a position where I could do 
> so I prefer Johnsarbor NVDA anyway but still using PDA
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 23, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings again my fellow enthusiasts!
>> 
>> While it is true that NVDA provides very good accessibility to most things 
>> Windows, I am still finding myself using Jaws more and more.  However, what 
>> I would like to know is how you use remote access services under NVDA?  With 
>> Jaws, I’m going to have to purchase the add-on that gives you access to 
>> remote terminal series and Citrix.  On that last point, does anybody know 
>> from where you need to download the Citrix server module?  I gather it needs 
>> to be installed before JAWS, is that correct?  if so, presumably one needs 
>> to remove and then reinstall JAWS itself, but retain user and shared 
>> settings, correct?
>> 
>> As for Jaws itself, I am finding it extremely stable and robust for the most 
>> part.  I’m in the process of installing a new system which I bought 
>> bare-bones a few weeks ago.  It’s going to be used primarily as a server for 
>> various functions, but Jaws will be used on that machine as Window-Eyes 
>> doesn’t seem to want to install, and NVDA is not as responsive as JAWS.
>> 
>> Sorry for the ramble.
>> 
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>> 
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