Let me just expound on Jorge's point about scalability.  If you decide to
use an SSL VPN box you're going to have some cost and management challenges
as you move from a small deployment of a few dozen to hundreds or thousands
of live connections.  Modern wireless infrastructure systems support
WPA/WPA2 out of the box, and all the processing happens in the AP or
controller rather than in the data center, which is likely deeper into your
infrastructure.  

It's also about protecting traffic at layer 2 or layer 3.  I would prefer to
protect as low as possible and add layers of security on top, as necessary.


As brought up in another posting, certain hardware form factors such as game
machines, PDAs, and smartphones, don't support VPN clients.

WPA and WPA2 are mature enough, both in the client, infrastructure, and
backend, to make it an integral part of your deployment process.

Regards,

Frank Bulk

-----Original Message-----
From: Jorge Bodden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 8:48 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSL VPN over wireless

Stephen,

SSL vpn is used for remote users logging in to your network remotely.  
Although it could solve some of your problems on the remote access side 
as well as your wireless network side, it might not be the right 
solution if you have a big enough network.  I assume that the vpn 
portion of of SSL stays the same in that all vpn traffic has to end up 
at the vpn concentrator(s) at some point or another due to the fact that 
the encryption will take place between the client and concentrator.  (I 
might be mistaken here on this since I do not work with the VPN 
concentrator so much).

Using 802.1X the authentication will go from client to AP to Radius to 
Authentication mechanism (LDAP, AD, etc) all of which are the same as 
VPN.  Once the authentication takes place the traffic will no longer go 
to the concentrators for encryption purposes, which eliminates the 
chance of a potential bottleneck at the concentrator.  The encryption 
now takes place between the AP and the client.  You might still have the 
potential for a bottleneck at the controller if you are implementing  
LightWeight AP Protocol (lwapp) because then all your traffic now has to 
go to the controllers.  Although this solution might add overhead, but 
one device will control traffic for internal users, while another 
controls traffic for external users.

Please keep in mind that this solution is more scalable for larger 
networks.  If your network is small enough you should be able to get 
away with SSL VPN. 

Thanks.

Jorge Bodden

Stephen Holland wrote:
> I would like to know if anybody is using SSL vpn as an
> authentication/encryption mechanism for wireless and how successful they
> have been deploying it.
>
> Also, I would be curious to know what other folks think about implementing
> 802.1x.  Specifically do you believe this is something that will be
> required in the next couple of years to support evolving technology like
> VoIP phones?.
>
> I'm trying to decide if I should deploy an SSL vpn solution  without
> deploying 802.1x.  My instinct tells me to plan for 802.1x but I would be
> curious to hear what others think.
>
> Thanks
>
> Stephen Holland
> Network Engineer
> Northeastern University
>
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