Many vendors listen to the list as an education, or to contact users
privately (annoying, but hard to prevent).
Some have been burned in the past by Educause's AUP, so they don't
respond anymore.

Ask a direct question they might answer
(you might have to rub the lamp, though ;-)

Philippe

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On Fri, 9 May 2008, Johnson, Bruce T wrote:

> Fair enough -- I wonder how come we don't hear anyone from Aruba?
>
> Is the grass greener on their access shores?
>
> --Bruce Johnson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philippe Hanset
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 1:35 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Site survey requirements for wireless VOIP
>
> Actually, Cisco people can definitely respond to technical questions
> on this forum if a question is being asked directly. Educause welcomes
> those inputs.
> But no sales pitch, vendor comparaison, OR VENDOR OPINIONS!
>
> Philippe
>
>
> > Cisco persons are definitely subscribed to this listserv, but company
> > protocol prevents them from responding in forums like this.  Your best bet
> > with Cisco is normally your account manager.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnson, Bruce T
> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:32 AM
> > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> > Subject: RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Site survey requirements for wireless VOIP
> >
> > I hear you -- but I really appreciate hearing everyone gripe (and it is an
> > issues forum after all).
> >
> > So how do we go about getting Cisco to hear all this good stuff?
> >
> > Cisco are you listening?
> >
> > --Bruce Johnson
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Frisby
> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 11:05 AM
> > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] <SPAM> RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Site survey
> > requirements
> > for wireless VOIP
> >
> > Guys -
> >
> > Quite frankly - I am just gitty that there is a discussion on here that
> > does not revolve around the configuration, debug, and hair pulling of
> > Cisco WLAN.
> >
> > For a while there - I though this the "Educause Cisco Wireless-LAN"
> > discussion board.
> >
> > Just a breath of fresh air :)
> >
> > Chad Frisby
> > Xirrus
> > 303.406.3222
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:58 AM
> > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> > Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] <SPAM> RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Site survey
> > requirements for wireless VOIP
> >
> > Stop thinking like an enterprise, and you'll understand Apple products
> > better!  :)
> >
> > Cheap shot- couldn't resist... meant in good fun, of course.)
> >
> > Lee
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cal Frye
> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:55 AM
> > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Site survey requirements for wireless VOIP
> >
> > Chad Frisby wrote:
> > > Bottom line - the Iphone radio set is not superior - if you plan for
> > > Iphone usage - then you're in better shape if rolling out an
> > enterprise
> > > Vo-WiFi solution with purpose built Wi-Fi handsets.
> >
> > Bottom line on my campus: I have no control over which devices my end
> > users purchase, my job is just to "make it work." If that means we
> > design for iPhones, then so be it.
> >
> > Stop thinking like an enterprise, and you'll understand the .edu space
> > better.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > -- Cal Frye, Network Administrator, Oberlin College
> >
> >     www.calfrye.com,  www.pitalabs.com
> >
> > "You can no longer save your family, tribe or nation. You can only save
> > the whole world. --Margaret Mead.
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