Thanks for the link to the slides. That sounds like exactly the issue I see 
(slide 29+30).

Looking forward to the 10.6.5 software update!

Sincerely,

Mark Linton
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On Oct 7, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Jeffrey Sessler wrote:

> Ryan,
> 
> I don't have access to the Apple bug number. If you a little info on
> the issue, see here:
> 
> Post mentions the "fix" in 10.6.5.
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.operators.ipv6/3902 
> http://www.fud.no/ipv6/
> 
> Monash University IPv6 deployment (great read)
> See slide 29+ which covers windows ICS and Mac issues with RFC 3484
> http://www.apan.net/meetings/Sydney2010/Session/Slides/IPv6/10%20John_Mann_20100210.pdf
> 
> 
> best,
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
>>>> "Holland, Ryan C." <holland....@osu.edu> 10/7/2010 1:10 PM >>>
> Jeff,
> 
> Do you have any more information on this bug? Is it
> documented/published? My experience is that Apple will silently  'fix'
> wireless issues while rarely explaining them to IT professionals. 
> 
> ===========
> Ryan Holland
> (sent while mobile)
> 
> On Oct 7, 2010, at 1:20 PM, "Jeffrey Sessler" <j...@scrippscollege.edu>
> wrote:
> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> There is a bug in 10.6 where it will under certain circumstances
> prefer
>> 6-to-4 IPv6 over IPv4. Apple has fixed the problem in the 10.6.5
> betas.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>>>>> Mark Linton <mhl...@psu.edu> 10/7/2010 9:38 AM >>>
>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:12 AM, Deke Kassabian wrote:
>> 
>>> On 10/7/10 11:00 AM, Reynolds, Walter wrote:
>>>> We have found that many of these are fixed by disabling IPv6 on
> the
>> Airport interface for the client.
>>> 
>>> I'd be very glad to hear a cohesive theory (from the list, from
>> Apple, whoever) on why that might be.
>>> 
>>> ^Deke
>> 
>> Disclaimer: I use a MacBook, exclusively on our campus wireless. I
> used
>> to have wireless issues. I disabled IPv6 on the wireless interface
> and
>> have had *no* issues since.
>> 
>> My own theory is that a Vista or Windows 7 user on the wireless
> network
>> has Internet Connection Sharing turned on. By default, these
> machines
>> provide IPv6 router advertisements for their built in 6-to-4 tunnel.
> The
>> Mac prefers IPv6 when available, sees these RAs and accepts that
> user's
>> machine as its gateway. The users machine passes my traffic on to
> its
>> gateway as tunneled traffic. Since I'm using IPv6, and it has
> converted
>> my traffic through its 6-to-4 gateway, my traffic needs another
> gateway
>> to get back to IPv6. I have seen times when the gateway it found was
> in
>> New Zealand (I'm in Pennsylvania). Depending on where it dumps me
> out, I
>> probably don't have an "optimal" path to my destination.
>> 
>> In theory, the fix is to get people to turn of MSICS. In practice,
> its
>> easier to get people to turn off IPv6.
>> 
>> By the way, the MSICS issue should also exist for IPv4, since it
>> includes DHCP offers. However, we have the ability to block this in
> our
>> LAN. We do not currently have the ability to block RAs.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Mark Linton
>> mhl...@psu.edu 
>> personal.psu.edu/mhl100
>> 814-865-4698
>> 
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