Lee,

My main point is that since you have written many times about Aruba's wireless 
offerings, I thought you would be more familiar with their features.

The know that a few years ago, at least, I talked with a Meru customer who said 
the system preferred that all APs on a controller be configured the same, so 
Cisco is not alone in this regard.

I just took exception to the broad brush of painting *all* controller based 
systems with this deficiency.

Bruce Osborne
Wireless Network Engineer
IT Network Services
 
(434) 592-4229
 
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
40 Years of Training Champions for Christ: 1971-2011

-----Original Message-----
From: Lee H Badman [mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: Dual radio APs, .11n on 2.4ghz radios or not?

Hi Bruce-

Your confusion is justified. Though I was at the Aruba conference, I am a Cisco 
customer. I should have put a finer point on my lament- I wish ALL 
controller-based wireless systems allowed for per AP settings like data rate 
variances. 

:)

Lee

Lee H. Badman

Wireless/Network Engineer

Information Technology and Services

Adjunct Instructor, iSchool

Syracuse University

315 443-3003

 
 

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 7:30 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Dual radio APs, .11n on 2.4ghz radios or not?

OK, Lee now you have me confused.

 I have seen you at Aruba user conferences, so I thought you knew their 
product. I have heard Meru prefers a common setup for all APs on a controller 
(or at least they did), but I did not think you were using them.

Our Aruba system lets us set data rates on an AP or AP group per SSID and the 
whole multi-controller system is managed from a central interface. Aruba has 
had these features since before we started evaluating them in late 2006. Even 
if you set the rated per AP group, you can customize individual APs apart from 
the group, This is useful if there they have only a couple of settings 
different from the group.

I do not know how long running your beef has been, but that was solved years 
ago. Aruba also lets you steer clients to the 5GHz band to you can reserve the 
2.4GHz band for b/g/n users. Of course, they also handle multicast video over 
Wi-Fi well too.


Note: I am not an Aruba salesman. Just a happy customer.

Bruce Osborne
Wireless Network Engineer
IT Network Services
 
(434) 592-4229
 
LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
40 Years of Training Champions for Christ: 1971-2011

-----Original Message-----
From: Lee H Badman [mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: Dual radio APs, .11n on 2.4ghz radios or not?

One of my long running beefs with controller based systems is that data rates 
settings are per controller. Would be nice to be able to set the two APs I 
might need for scanners to 11b rates, while letting the other 498 do no less 
than 5.5. 

Perhaps I want too much... Sigh. This technology stuff...

-Lee Badman
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W 
[bosbo...@liberty.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 7:37 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Dual radio APs, .11n on 2.4ghz radios or not?

In our 2.4 network here at Liberty, this is what we setup that works, at least 
for Aruba APs.

Transmit Rates: Only 5.5 & higher
Basic Rates: 2 & 5.5

I believe some gaming systems needed to see 2 Mbps as a basic rate, but it did 
not need to be transmitted.

Bruce Osborne
Wireless Network Engineer
IT Network Services

(434) 592-4229

LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
40 Years of Training Champions for Christ: 1971-2011

From: Voll, Toivo [mailto:to...@usf.edu]
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: Dual radio APs, .11n on 2.4ghz radios or not?

We're also running into similar issues with purpose-built PDAs, of the type 
used to scan tickets and inventory etc. Also, I seem to recall that Nintendo DS 
will not associate if it doesn't see the 1 Mbps rates. How other universities 
are dealing with discontinuing support to existing devices would be interesting 
to hear - or if there's a technical solution someone has devised for this.

Toivo Voll
Network Administrator
Information Technology Communications
University of South Florida



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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeremy Brake
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 16:29
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Dual radio APs, .11n on 2.4ghz radios or not?

Rick,

What are you doing for Wii users?  The last time I checked they required the 
lowest G speeds in order to associate.  Please tell me they fixed it with a new 
code release for the Wii's..

http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/dropping-legacy-80211-support-your-infrastruc



Jeremy


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick Brown
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 2:07 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Dual radio APs, .11n on 2.4ghz radios or not?

Craig,

Enabling N on the 2.4 is not a lost cause and will help improve performance if 
the coverage has been designed properly.  As of June 1st we are disabling 11B 
and all 11G rates below 12Mbps.

In order to help steer people to the 5Ghz band we have created an SSID that is 
only broadcast in that band and publicized it as higher performance.

Rick

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