To answer Lee's question, yes, there has been value. The transient users that 
use the attwifi service are the responsibility of AT&T and not the university. 
This is a value-add for us.

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Office of the Chief Information Officer
The Ohio State University
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On Jul 21, 2011, at 1:08 PM, Lee H Badman wrote:

> This is where I gotta plug our Bluesocket box for guest access. They worked 
> with us to develop a simple “SMS you your password” mechanism, and I can’t 
> imagine a simpler guest portal for people to use. The AT&T model does seem 
> interesting, but to Phillipe’s point, I’m not digging the single carrier 
> thing.
>  
>  
>  
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> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hanset, Philippe C
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:01 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AT&T WiFi
>  
> Overlaying AT&T Wi-Fi over the wireless network to me seems like the same 
> problem as 
> a vendor specific DAS. 
> Only AT&T customers can really use the infrastructure unless you are willing 
> to pay "a la carte" for the service.
> What's next? Verizon Wi-Fi, Sprint Wi-Fi... or a web page where you have to 
> pick the vendor of your choice
> in a long list (highly sensitive to MITM). 
> With models like eduroam, at least all R&E people can join the network while 
> traveling around.
>  
> What we really need is eduroam for other users as well! (I'm working on it ;-)
>  
> Philippe
>  
> Philippe Hanset
> Univ. of TN, Knoxville
> www.eduroamus.org
>  
>  
>  
> On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Dewitt Latimer wrote:
> 
> 
> As a person who travels to many campuses, I can tell you that having my 
> iPhone auto-associate with a campus WiFi is a whole lot nicer than having to 
> bug my hosts to sponsor me for a guest wireless account.
> 
> So I think the real way to look at this is (1) how many guests do you have to 
> your campus, (2) do you care about them, (3) is your wireless guest 
> registration system self sponsored and simple, or a real PIA?
> 
> You don't necessarily have to overlay the AT&T ssid over your whole campus 
> either. You can hit (say) the performing arts, campus hotel and conference, 
> etc. But that's more of a political outcome than technical. If you go through 
> the hassle of a couple of buildings, you might as well do them all.
> 
> Also, AT&T almost always brings their own commodity bandwidth to the 
> bargaining table. So depending on how many guests you have anyway, you can 
> off load some of their data to their pipe.
> 
> -d
> 
>  
> 
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu> wrote:
> Ryan-
>  
> Do you feel there has been any real value to OSU, or any downside?
>  
> Thanks-
>  
>  
> Lee H. Badman
> Wireless/Network Engineer
> Information Technology and Services
> Adjunct Instructor, iSchool
> Syracuse University
> 315 443-3003
>  
>  
> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Holland, Ryan C.
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:34 PM
> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AT&T WiFi
>  
> We have it here at OSU, and it works adequately. Nothing special. Just a L2 
> handoff from our equipment to theirs.
> 
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> The Ohio State University
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>  
> On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Steve Hess wrote:
>  
> 
> Anyone have experience with the AT&T WiFi product?  Upper management is 
> looking into it here.  My understanding is they will use our existing Aruba 
> infrastructure to propagate the signal.  Curious for input from others on 
> direct experience and technical considerations (in general and as relates to 
> Aruba specifically).
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Steve
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