I agree that there is a need to address all of the enterprise issues. We are 
really struggling with the AppleID on iOS and it is going to get 10x worse for 
us when we are forced to use Mountain Lion and everything has to come to the 
app store.

Maybe dividing it by "topic" is the best way though. Networking issues, 
software/OS deployement issues, etc.

Tim Cappalli, ACMP CCNA | (802) 626-6456
Office of Information Technology (OIT) | Lyndon
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Kellogg, Brian D.
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 10:43 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check

I don't use facebook so I think this would be a good move.

After discussing this with a colleague at another university I believe a 
broader approach than just addressing Bonjour is justified.  Apple does have 
many deficiencies to address in the enterprise.

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]<mailto:[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]>
 On Behalf Of Garry Peirce
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:26 AM
To: 
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Subject: Re: Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check

Hearing that some do not use FB that wish to sign, perhaps moving it to a site 
like http://www.change.org<http://www.change.org/> is a possibility, or perhaps 
a page could be hosted on the Educause website itself?

The petition's main statement reads:

"We the undersigned academic and research institutions request that Apple 
provide support for Bonjour/Airplay technology in enterprise networks."
Might I suggest a possible refinement to:

"We the undersigned academic and research institutions request that Apple 
collaborate with us to improve Bonjour/Airplay technologies in enterprise 
networks."

For me, if DNS-SD worked for Airplay (as it does for printing) , my current 
hurdle would largely be solved.
That would also require the AppleTV concession made to content-providers 
relaxed or removed.
Perhaps they could make an alternative AppleTV image that allows DNS-SD to 
work, but removes the content-provider features (?).

If one needs both the content services and Airplay across subnets, that seems 
the immediate problem we'd like Apple to help solve in lieu of other 
proprietary solutions.





From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
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 On Behalf Of Jesse Rink
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:34 PM
To: 
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check

So for those of us without Facebook, no way of signing it?

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]<mailto:[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]>
 On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:14 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Apple Petition- Mid-Week Sanity Check

Folks,

Those interested seem to agree that we'd discuss specific pain points regarding 
"those other" Apple devices like AppleTv and any AirPlay/Bonjour-dependent 
gadgets until Friday, at which point we'd firm up the petition and find a place 
to host it. Then would come signatures, and ultimately presenting it to Apple, 
possibly via each of our Apple reps.

Neil Johnson has started the companion Facebook group, and has drafted the 
early version of what everyone appears to want from Apple development in 
petition form at https://www.facebook.com/groups/enterpriseairplay with 72 
members joining thus far. (Thanks, Neil)

We have at least one CIO interested, and interested in sharing it with other 
CIOs via Educause if petition is done in a constructive, fact-based way.

We also have a bit of media coverage coming soon on the process, with 
potentially more to follow.

A lot of excellent technical discussion has been spawned during all of this, 
and as usual, the interaction has been great between list members.

All of that being said, it is worth asking:


*         Is the group still feeling good about the direction this initiative 
is going in?

*         Does anyone have any problems with the wording and points in the doc 
so far?

*         Is everyone interested able to sign on behalf of their 
institution/organization? If not, can you get empowered or find someone who can 
sign?

*         Has anyone else approached senior IT management and found interest? 
Any other CIOs game at this point?

*         Any other mid-week thoughts, concerns, comments on the topic?

Regards-

Lee Badman

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