Has anyone constructed a wired/wireless set of tools that will allow us to manually detect WiFi rogues and then disable their MAC addresses on the wired network? I have Prime 1.3 running for APs so I can see the rogues but I don't know which wired port they are connected to. -Scott (we are the morlocks) Allen
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu> wrote: > Is a frustrating topic for sure. Even if you have a good wireless guest > network, many vendors/visitors and even some faculty/staff/students just > prefer to pull their own devices out and use “their own WLAN” anywhere and > everywhere- it’s just part of their lifestyle. And yes, frustratingly our > friends at Verizon and AT&T who make these units increasingly cheaper could > give a rip about interference or policy of the places the gadgets get used. > My own rant: > http://wirednot.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/mi-fi-not-kind-to-wi-fi/ > > > > Prevention is great if you can effectively spread the word, but the need > to have a mitigation strategy is inevitable- as is the occasional scenario > where a class or meeting (or stadium event) has its campus wireless > crippled by people “bringin’ their own Wi-Fi”. Sadly. Our lot in life is to > bear the criticism that the WLAN sucks when we’re simply a victim of > physics, until we can deal with getting the devices eliminated. > > > > The move to 5 GHz by more devices helps, but doesn’t eliminate the problem > as some Mi-Fis are showing up in 5 GHz as well. To me, this is just one of > the negative (to us in the Enterprise WLAN business) effects of the general > consumerization of IT, and of WLAN specifically. There is no fix, there is > no answer, so you need a strategy that combines: > > > > · Education- frequent and non-threatening messages of why these > devices are problematic > > · Get partners- IT staff/Deans, etc beyond the WLAN admins have > to buy in and help with the message > > · Enforcement- when you can without obsessing about it > > · Tolerance- some you just have to let slide, either politically > or because it’s just not worth the battle > > > > And you have to be able to apply these in varying weights depending on the > situation. Nothing with wireless is simple any more. > > > > One man’s O-pinion. > > > > Regards- > > > > Lee Badman > > > > > > > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Anthony, Mark G > *Sent:* Thursday, January 09, 2014 8:00 AM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Myfi > > > > We too have seen this issue in our conference center and other functions > that go on around campus. As for policing them, we have in the past tried > to shut them down and had good luck in doing so. Once everyone in the room > turned off their Myfi’s they started working again on the campus wireless > network. The down fall is that once you cleared the room and all is good a > new group of people lets out and more Myfi’s show up. It’s fighting a > losing battle is you ask me. Best we can do is get the person or person’s > running the event and educate them about the possible situations before the > event takes place. With that said, I’m also curious how others handle this > issue during their large venues. ‘ > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Mark G. Anthony > > Network Administrator > > Information Technology Services > > The Florida State University > > Email manth...@fsu.edu > > > > > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [ > mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] > *On Behalf Of *John Kaftan > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 8, 2014 10:34 PM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Myfi > > > > I got my hands on someone's Verizon Myfi today and it was set to Auto > choose what channel to broadcast its SSID on. The crazy thing chose > channel 2! It was putting out a pretty strong signal too. I was seeing a > -50 dB from 10 feet away. > > > > To anyone else connected to channel 1 or 6 a signal on channel 2 is going > to be noise, i.e. interference. > > > > When doing scans I have seen this before. I have seen these things on > every channel but 1,6,11 now that I think about it. > > > > I logged into its web interface and was able to force it to use channel > 1. There is also an easy to use interface right on the device where I > could chose the channel. > > > > I'm just alarmed that these things choose non-standandard channels. If > 3-4 or more of these things show up in room hosting a conference we may > have a real problem. Its hard enough to put 120 laptops in a room and get > them all on and happy let alone having these things out there. > > > > I'm curious, does anybody police these devices at high density events or > make an announcement requesting folks turn them off? I can't imagine these > Myfis perform well in high density situations due to their competing for > bandwidth on both 2.4 and cellular bands. > > > > Thanks > > -- > > John Kaftan > > IT Infrastructure Manager > > Utica College > > > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > -- Scott Allen Director, Network Services Georgetown University sc...@georgetown.edu mobile - 202-309-5739 ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
