What brand of APs are you using? Aruba APs will only accept PoE from the first 
Ethernet port.

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-----Original Message-----
From: John Center [mailto:john.cen...@villanova.edu] 
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: How many drops 802.11ac phase 2

Hi Philippe,

Another reason for 2 drops is resiliency.  I envision connecting the AP's 2 
ports to a 2-switch stack.  We rarely see the need for redundant power supplies 
in an edge switch, but have seen failure on a switch ASIC cause one or more 
ports to go dead.  With 2 connections, one switch having issues won't take out 
the AP.  I think LAG'g both ports across the stack & supporting LACP will 
become a future requirement.

        -John


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John Center
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On 02/07/2014 10:21 AM, Hanset, Philippe C wrote:
> Is the main justification for two drops due to power/bandwidth/the-two?
>
> With many services and most killer apps going to the cloud, I would 
> suspect that the bandwidth to the WAN is so limiting, that this excess 
> of capacity on Wireless is a complete overkill (a vendor driven 
> non-sense).
>
> Yes, those 802.11ac Phase2 APs can generate a lot more than 1 Gbps, 
> but that's is shared bandwidth (half-duplex), and your uplink is 1 
> Gbps full-duplex (2 Gbps in Cisco math as we said in the old days).
>
> So, you really plan to also uplink your switches with 40 Gbps, and 
> then a core at many times 100 Gbps, all connected to your ISP at a few 
> Gbps... something doesn't add up here.
>
> Am I alone making bad accounting here?
>
> Philippe Hanset
> www.eduroam.us <http://www.eduroam.us>
>
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:58 AM, James Robert Kennon <jken...@gsu.edu 
> <mailto:jken...@gsu.edu>>
>   wrote:
>
>> We just made a call on a new building and decided not to incur cost 
>> of
>> 2 cables per drop at this time. Hope we don't regret it later.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu <mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu>>
>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
>> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 14:56:31 +0000
>> To: <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] How many drops 802.11ac phase 2
>>
>> We'll be running two, until some sanity emerges.
>>
>>
>>
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>> <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Brian David 
>> <brian.da...@bc.edu <mailto:brian.da...@bc.edu>>
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>> *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] How many drops 802.11ac phase 2
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I wanted to see how many people were planning on running 2 drops to 
>> 802.11ac phase 2 access points?
>>
>> Currently we are just doing a one for one swap when replacing an 
>> older a/b/g AP's with 802.11ac phase 1 AP's
>>
>> When you have new construction, do you plan on running 2 drops so 
>> when phase 2 come into play you will be all set for it?
>>
>>
>>
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