Maybe a solution will come out of this???? http://www.wsj.com/articles/hewlett-packard-to-buy-aruba-networks-1425303619
Bruce Entwistle Network Manager University of Redlands From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas Carter Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 9:21 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? I came from the corporate world a couple of years ago, and there is a similar need in business. We sometimes just had to say “no” because sometimes just a temp/quick thing violates policy that may be tied to law (security policies related to Sarbanes Oxley, for example). Or, depending on who you asked, you went out of your way to set up a laptop with the printer directly connected and acting as a temporary print server (not proud of it, but when a CxO asks, you jump). Thomas Carter Network and Operations Manager Austin College 903-813-2564 [AusColl_Logo_Email] From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Sessler Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 2:18 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? If this was a common need in business, then I would expect someone like HP to build it in. I suspect however, that this is one of those edge-cases where EDU's act differently than business, but use business features with 1.x. On your open network, couldn't you use Cisco's built-in device profiling/policy classification to drop it into a different vlan (no need for radius) and avoid routing tricks? You could drop it into the same network as .1x. Again, if this is just a temp/quick thing - "popping up" a PSK WLAN on a couple of AP's using an AP Group (in Cisco terms) is two minutes of work. Far less time then trying to convince HP (or others) to add .1x support. Jeff >>> On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 11:35 AM, in message >>> <5efd60133fa74c6397d63beef9ccc...@ex13-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu<mailto:5efd60133fa74c6397d63beef9ccc...@ex13-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu>>, >>> Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu>> wrote: Depends on your topology. We don’t have or want a PSK WLAN, and don’t want to pop them up either. Single open network is a guest network, would have to change how it works and do some routing tricks to let printers work from behind it. We don’t do RADIUS attributes either to drop into different VLANs. All environments aren’t the same and .1X support for business devices in business settings seems appropriate. -Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Sessler Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 12:57 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? Lee, I'm curious about the need to be on 1.x. Is there something compelling that can't be accomplished using PSK, or even an open network that 1.x can? If the printer supports IPPS or other SSL/TLS encrypted communication channel, then does 1.x matter especially in a temp/quick situation? Just my quick thought would be to drop it into a open, wep, or psk, and if required, use device profiling/policy classification to drop into desired VLAN. Jeff >>> On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 11:56 AM, in message >>> <dfc7c8b7b2234e159805f94e47fcd...@ex13-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu<mailto:dfc7c8b7b2234e159805f94e47fcd...@ex13-mbx-10.ad.syr.edu>>, >>> Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu>> wrote: Not looking to debate the merit- sometimes the need is quick /temp and there’s not time to cable. No disrespect, but looking for actual verified 1x printers with the question. -Lee Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ian McDonald Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 2:50 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? If the cost of an outlet was more than the cost of a decent printer it'd be an issue. Otherwise, the cost of the outlet is incidental to the cost of providing the service and the 'value add'. Can print / can't print cost difference of <$100. Value add of same? -- ian Sent from my phone, please excuse brevity and/or misspelling. ________________________________ From: Lee H Badman<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu> Sent: 12/02/2015 19:40 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? It comes up as a request often enough to keep tabs on, for either temporary placement or for locations that have power but not UTP. Lee Badman Wireless/Network Architect ITS, Syracuse University 315.443.3003 (Blog: http://wirednot.wordpress.com) From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ian McDonald Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 2:35 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? Why bother? If you can run a power outlet, you can run a catN also, and have guaranteed connectivity & throughput.. My useless $0.02 -- Ian Sent from my phone, please excuse brevity and/or misspelling. ________________________________ From: Lee H Badman<mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu> Sent: 12/02/2015 19:00 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Annual Exercise in Frustration: Printers that do wireless 1x? This is a good for a yearly laugh, so let me throw it out there: Has anyone found- and confirmed through actual use- any enterprise WLAN-capable printers or print servers that work with 802.1x WLAN security? 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