Really Bruce? LOL
Thank you for the advice, but I for one will stick with class-leading/unique
technology innovations in the Cisco stuff, like DBS (dynamic bandwidth
selection), CleanAir, and FRA (Flexible Radio Assignment) just to name a few.
Jeff
On 8/11/16, 4:39 AM, "The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
on behalf of Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services)"
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU on behalf of bosbo...@liberty.edu> wrote:
Perhaps you should consider Aruba Networks / HP Enterprise.
They eliminated "burned-in" licenses on controllers but if you replace one
of them, they will generate licenses for your replacement, at least in our
experience.
We do not purchase support on most of our APs since they have a lifetime
warranty anyway. For some unusual or mission-critical applications
(point-to-point for instance) we purchase the hardware support to get quicker
replacements. We *do* pay support the licenses (AP & other) on our controllers
but central licensing helps us maximize the value of our licenses.
Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Network Oprations - Wireless
(434) 592-4229
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-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Newton [mailto:m...@leicester.ac.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: Wireless Mobility
On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 08:46:28PM +0000, Jeffrey D. Sessler wrote:
> On limiting the 8510 to 3000 WAPs, and then adding another 8510 pair.
> Since the 8500 series are subject to Cisco’s new and improved RTU
> licensing, instead of adding another pair of 8510’s, purchase a pair
> of 8540’s and move the 8510’s 3000 AP licenses to the new 8540 along
> with the additional licenses.
Except that Cisco don't treat the 8510 and the 8540 as the same "family",
so they won't let you move AP licences between them.
We've just been through this, and I raised the same question...
"they're 85xx, so we can just move our 8510 AP licences to the new
8540 hardware". Which Cisco confirmed that we couldn't. :(
Why they couldn't call it the 9540 (or even the 8640) to make that clear I
have no idea, but then there are 7500/5520 controllers in the same families, so
it's a right mess. I *think* I worked out that the Flex7500 and 8510 are in one
family, and the 5520/8540/vWLC are in another, but I'm not entirely sure. It
was certainly implied that we could move the licences to some different
controllers, just not the 8540.
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/wireless/flex-7500-series-wireless-controllers/qa_c67-713536.html
seems to also imply you can't even move from e.g. a 5520 to a 8540, only
between exactly the same model.
And of course you also can't move the base licences from a controller to
any other controller. Only the adder licences are transferrable. So if you
bought a controller with 1000 base licenses, and a couple of 1000 adder
licences to get up to 3000, on the 2000 extra can be moved.
Really, it would be better if Cisco stopped the AP licences nonsense
completely and just added £50 to the cost of each AP. But I guess the current
way makes them a lot more money...
> I mention this because the zero-AP 8510 and 8540 are the exact same
> list price, so it doesn’t make a lot of sense to get the 8510’a. Oh,
> and instead of smartnet on four 8510 controllers, it’s just smartnet
> on two 8540’s.
Charging maintenance on controller AP licences is also dodgy IMO (or "good
business practise", from Cisco's point of view), and definitely something to
watch out for if you have lots of spare controller AP licences around.
Matthew
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