In theory, yes - I doubt that anyone is going to deploy 11ax with earlier standards disabled (except for base 11b data rates, anyway). The problem is there's a bug in commonly deployed Intel driver versions which prevents the client from attaching to the network if 11ax rates are enabled at all:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000054799/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html Frank Sweetser Director of Network Operations Worcester Polytechnic Institute "For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and wrong." - HL Mencken ________________________________ From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Jennifer Minella <j...@cadinc.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 6:23 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs I don’t believe ClearPass Device Insight shows driver details – I just skimmed through endpoint details page and attributes and don’t see it. At the risk of asking a dumb question, is there a reason not to simply deploy the 500-series with backwards compatibility enabled? That would allow you to offer a seamless experience for clients in a mixed-PHY-standard environment and support current clients on n/ac and even a/b/g etc. Cheers! -jj ___________ Jennifer Minella, CISSP, HP MASE VP of Engineering & Security Carolina Advanced Digital, Inc. www.cadinc.com<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cadinc.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7C5d86227a676a4b1fd9a708d74d08c938%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062572534302436&sdata=XctFjAz7IAvpBK5R0AxF9fp%2FusIkgecrtJSaBXzl5wE%3D&reserved=0> j...@cadinc.com<mailto:j...@cadinc.com> 919.460.1313 Main Office 919.539.2726 Mobile/text [CAD LOGO EMAIL SIG] From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Michael Davis <da...@udel.edu><mailto:da...@udel.edu> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 7:57 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU><mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs We currently have the Wi-Fi 6 extensions disabled because of the Intel Driver issues (https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F000054799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.html&data=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7Cbc693525d46e464edc2308d74cafd52b%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062190393581783&sdata=PPsyPwaUPetmfINaNm1FZVxnaI8DN9ydJ%2BA704MhLwM%3D&reserved=0<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F000054799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.html&data=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7C5d86227a676a4b1fd9a708d74d08c938%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062572534312429&sdata=TX%2BBCWo3phrnCl4CnmFveYgfjHfuqwF%2FXzZBbwIqhts%3D&reserved=0>) We've been notifying clients and were updating drivers until instructed to just turn off Wi-Fi 6. This begs the question of trying to identify the problematic machines and seek them out, or just announce a future date to turn on Wi-Fi 6 and go back to dealing with updating drivers as they come up. We'll have a mix (currently ~15% Wi-Fi 6) of AP models for a while, so the issues won't all show right away. Anyone looked into identifying the machines needing updated through fingerprinting (Aruba Insight or Airwave or Clearpass ) ? 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