Not only does the Intel wireless card problem on Windows computers prevent them from attaching, our experience is that none of the SSIDs are even visible to Windows computers when ax is turned on, even though ac and n are also turned on. So from their point of view, the WAPs are broken, and we hear about it when the parents of students call people on the executive team wondering why IT is so incompetent they can't provide a wireless network similar to the one they rolled out in their home in a matter of minutes. Now it's public relations and a political problem.
The only solution that we've found apart from going to each computer and hand installing the new drivers is turning off 802.11ax on our new, expensive WAPs, and waiting for , what? 2 years? , until either Microsoft makes these wireless upgrades mandatory security patches (unlikely), or the population of old Windows computers diminishes to only a handful. John Rodkey Director of Servers and Networks Westmont College On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 5:48 PM Sweetser, Frank E <f...@wpi.edu> wrote: > In theory, yes - I doubt that anyone is going to deploy 11ax with earlier > standards disabled (except for base 11b data rates, anyway). The problem > is there's a bug in commonly deployed Intel driver versions which prevents > the client from attaching to the network if 11ax rates are enabled at all: > > > https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000054799/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html > > Frank Sweetser > Director of Network Operations > Worcester Polytechnic Institute > "For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and > wrong." - HL Mencken > ------------------------------ > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv < > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Jennifer Minella < > j...@cadinc.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 9, 2019 6:23 PM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU < > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs > > > I don’t believe ClearPass Device Insight shows driver details – I just > skimmed through endpoint details page and attributes and don’t see it. > > At the risk of asking a dumb question, is there a reason not to simply > deploy the 500-series with backwards compatibility enabled? That would > allow you to offer a seamless experience for clients in a > mixed-PHY-standard environment and support current clients on n/ac and even > a/b/g etc. > > > > Cheers! > > -jj > > ___________ > > *Jennifer Minella*, CISSP, HP MASE > > VP of Engineering & Security > > Carolina Advanced Digital, Inc. > > *www.cadinc.com* > <https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cadinc.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7C5d86227a676a4b1fd9a708d74d08c938%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062572534302436&sdata=XctFjAz7IAvpBK5R0AxF9fp%2FusIkgecrtJSaBXzl5wE%3D&reserved=0> > > *j...@cadinc.com* <j...@cadinc.com> > > 919.460.1313 Main Office > > 919.539.2726 Mobile/text > > [image: CAD LOGO EMAIL SIG] > > > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv > *<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>* > <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Michael Davis > *<da...@udel.edu>* <da...@udel.edu> > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 9, 2019 7:57 AM > *To:* *WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU* > <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > *<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>* > <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > *Subject:* [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Aruba Wi-Gi 6 APs > > > > We currently have the Wi-Fi 6 extensions disabled because of the Intel > Driver issues > ( > *https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F000054799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.html&data=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7Cbc693525d46e464edc2308d74cafd52b%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062190393581783&sdata=PPsyPwaUPetmfINaNm1FZVxnaI8DN9ydJ%2BA704MhLwM%3D&reserved=0* > <https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.intel.com%2Fcontent%2Fwww%2Fus%2Fen%2Fsupport%2Farticles%2F000054799%2Fnetwork-and-i-o%2Fwireless-networking.html&data=02%7C01%7Cfs%40WPI.EDU%7C5d86227a676a4b1fd9a708d74d08c938%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637062572534312429&sdata=TX%2BBCWo3phrnCl4CnmFveYgfjHfuqwF%2FXzZBbwIqhts%3D&reserved=0> > ) > > We've been notifying clients and were updating drivers until instructed > to just turn off Wi-Fi 6. > This begs the question of trying to identify the problematic machines > and seek them out, or > just announce a future date to turn on Wi-Fi 6 and go back to dealing > with updating drivers as > they come up. 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