Put it in while you can indeed to what Michael said. And funny point about the “student expectation at times is unrealistic” as my co-worker overheard a girl saying recently the “Wi-Fi” sucks, when her friend asked her why, it was because it drops off under a 4 direction walk-way under-pass beneath an intersection….
Christopher Johnson Wireless Network Engineer AT Infrastructure Operations & Networking (ION) Illinois State University (309) 438-8444 Stay connected with ISU IT news and tips with @ISU IT Help on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/ISUITHelp/> and Twitter<https://twitter.com/ISUITHelp> From: Johnson, Christopher Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 1:33 PM To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have Same situation as with what Thomas Carter ran into. We ran into the same situation a few years ago -> currently have one AP in the concert hall seating area and one in the theatre seating area (the concert hall AP is up in the cat-walk and does a surprisingly good amount of coverage/reflection around the area down below) -> because the rooms are used for more that just theatre/performances – sometimes for classes and others for important presentations/presenters. We were asked by a couple individuals “can we just say no to Wifi” in those area during campus upgrade. We did add several additional APs in the atrium area for where students study and the back-stage areas for performers when taking their breaks. It was ultimately decided no additional density due to cost (new work in old work). To the point about “distractions during performances and presentations/“people would be using devices instead of watching the performances” -> we got complaints again about Wi-Fi in the concert hall – and one of the IT folks brought up a very good and interesting point “I think several around me were more distracted by continual efforts to get a good connection because that is what the expectation is these days. And the rest were just flipped over to cell probably without knowing it.” Christopher Johnson Wireless Network Engineer AT Infrastructure Operations & Networking (ION) Illinois State University (309) 438-8444 Stay connected with ISU IT news and tips with @ISU IT Help on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/ISUITHelp/> and Twitter<https://twitter.com/ISUITHelp> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Manon Lessard Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:37 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have [This message came from an external source. If suspicious, report to ab...@ilstu.edu<mailto:ab...@ilstu.edu>] Not only do most students expect it, universities push their online learning platforms, performers appreciate it and you can hand them “on the cheap”, but there’s always the possibility that some are going to be used for convocation ceremonies…meaning lots and lots of happy grads and their parents who want to share over social media (else, beware of Spotted:Your Uni) Manon Lessard Technicienne en développement de systèmes CCNP, CWNE #275, ESCE Design Direction des technologies de l'information Pavillon Louis-Jacques-Casault 1055, avenue du Séminaire Bureau 0403 Université Laval, Québec (Québec) G1V 0A6, Canada 418 656-2131, poste 412853 Télécopieur : 418 656-7305 manon.less...@dti.ulaval.ca<mailto:manon.less...@dti.ulaval.ca> www.dti.ulaval.ca<http://www.dti.ulaval.ca/> Avis relatif à la confidentialité | Notice of Confidentiality<http://www.rec.ulaval.ca/lce/securite/confidentialite.htm> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> on behalf of Tomo <t...@london.edu<mailto:t...@london.edu>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Date: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 1:28 PM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have ATTENTION : L’émetteur de ce courriel est externe à l’Université Laval Évitez de cliquer sur un hyperlien, d’ouvrir une pièce jointe ou de transmettre des informations si vous ne connaissez pas l’expéditeur du courriel. En cas de doute, contactez l’équipe de soutien informatique de votre unité ou hameconn...@ulaval.ca<mailto:hameconn...@ulaval.ca>. ________________________________ I can think of some performers who have actively encouraged their audience to take pictures/videos and share them (live) on social media. Having decent connectivity obviously can support such activities. Install it! Tomo | Infrastructure Architect | Information Technology – Operations and Assurance London Business School | Regent's Park | London NW1 4SA | UK D: +44 (0)20 7000 7777 | T: +44 (0)20 7000 7000 E: t...@london.edu<mailto:t...@london.edu> | W: www.london.edu<http://www.london.edu/> Connect with us: LinkedIn<https://www.linkedin.com/school/5954> | Twitter<https://twitter.com/LBS> | Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/pages/London-United-Kingdom/London-Business-School/14027365105> | Instagram<https://www.instagram.com/londonbschool/?hl=en> [cid:image001.jpg@01D58906.653EA0F0] From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Thomas Carter Sent: 22 October 2019 18:24 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have Add me to the “install it” list as we’re going through this exact thing with our theater department. They have pushed back with concerns that “people would be using devices instead of watching the performances”. But that venue is used for more than just plays and we can’t stop people from looking at cell phones. Thomas Carter Network & Operations Manager / IT Austin College 900 North Grand Avenue Sherman, TX 75090 Phone: 903-813-2564 www.austincollege.edu<http://www.austincollege.edu/> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Dan Lauing Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:14 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have I'll jump on the install train. Every time I try to save the university money, it only comes back to bite me in the rear. On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:11 PM Benedick, Jason <bened...@stevenscollege.edu<mailto:bened...@stevenscollege.edu>> wrote: I’d install it, you can always disable SSIDs in those areas to prevent people from using it, but I’d bet there will be something that will require it sooner rather than later. Thanks, Jason R. Benedick IT Generalist Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology Office: (717) 391-6957 Cell: (717) 587-9065 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Bull, Mary Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:34 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Theater wifi - to have or not to have This email originated from outside of Thaddeus Stevens College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Hello all, I’m wondering if anyone here has dealt with a decision on wireless in the theaters, concert halls, or recital halls on their campus. We have a new arts complex coming on line in the next two years and there’s no clear direction from faculty on whether wireless for the audience is desirable. The previous main theater, and other currently used theaters on campus, did/do not have full connectivity for the audience (just a few aps tacked on the walls that were useless when the room was full). Facilities planning is favorable toward building it in, so I’d prefer that too, especially since it would be much harder or impossible to install if the faculty changes their mind in a few years once the building is complete. However, I’m not sure whether there is really an expectation from the audience that they should have wifi when they attend a show or concert. Has anyone dealt with this on their campus? What influenced your choice? 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