About 2 years ago I installed 3 of the Ventiv mini bollards. I was concerned that a mower would take out one of them, but it hasn’t happened yet. The top when not connected to the base seems very flimsy, but it has surprised me how well they have held up. We did place them in areas where students would not sit on them. We even installed 2702i access points in them, so they are not even outdoor rated access points.
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> On Behalf Of Brian Helman Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 3:17 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WIRELESS-LAN Digest - 28 Aug 2020 to 29 Aug 2020 (#2020-156) I wasn’t planning on powering the AP’s from the poles. I assumed the lights on the poles were locally switched though, so pre-switch should be possible. It’s something to verify though. The problem with bollards is that combined with the light poles, it makes the area very busy with vertical poles. It’s supposed to be an inviting area, not one that looks like a jail (or crib). Thanks though. All of these are being added to our “double check” list! -Brian From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Manon Lessard Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 3:32 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WIRELESS-LAN Digest - 28 Aug 2020 to 29 Aug 2020 (#2020-156) CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Salem State University. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Brian In my experience (YMMV) light poles have photo cells which would prevent proper power from being fed to your APs during the day. In my case, it’s even worse, there is one “loop” that feeds the power to all poles on campus, so all poles light up at the same time, I cannot only power one up, say because I have an AP on it but not on the others. And we’re not even talking about convincing the power people to let you put something on “their” pole... Hanging from roof is just a huge hassle, too high anyways and the cost in wiring in addition to the loss you would get even using LMR600 would be too much trouble IMO. So either bollards or some kind of a pole or even a skinned building-side solution could be best. If you have bus stop enclosures that are heated/cooled, maybe they could help you cover the area? 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Our Facilities people are not in favor of us putting anything on the roofs, so now I’m back to looking at ground level. Everyone wants wireless in the quad, but no one wants the actual gear installed. Right now, I’m leaning to mounting them on existing light poles, but this is good info to have. Thanks, Brian From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Jennifer Minella Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 3:08 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WIRELESS-LAN Digest - 28 Aug 2020 to 29 Aug 2020 (#2020-156) CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Salem State University. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Brian, This isn’t exactly what you were asking but most enclosure manufacturers (like Ventev) make AP concealment / aesthetics products for both indoor and outdoor. As an example, these bollards are popular with several of our university clients. 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