A few years ago we had to "light up" a couple of parking lots. The light poles there are on timers, so there is no power during the day. Trenching was cost prohibitive as well.
We ended up setting up a mesh from a nearby building to send data to these two APs. And for power, we used continuous power bridges from Solis Energy. At night, the light circuit provides power (which is 240v) to the bridge, which in turns provides power to the access point while at the same time charging up a battery. Once power is disconnected, the battery kicks in and powers the AP during the day. Only issue we had when they were configured was they gave us 802.11af injectors instead of 802.11at ones, which was required for the AP to work. https://solisenergy.com/product/continuous-power-bridge/ On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 4:17 PM Brian Helman <bhel...@salemstate.edu> wrote: > I wasn’t planning on powering the AP’s from the poles. I assumed the > lights on the poles were locally switched though, so pre-switch should be > possible. It’s something to verify though. The problem with bollards is > that combined with the light poles, it makes the area very busy with > vertical poles. It’s supposed to be an inviting area, not one that looks > like a jail (or crib). > > > > Thanks though. All of these are being added to our “double check” list! > > > > -Brian > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv < > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> *On Behalf Of *Manon Lessard > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2020 3:32 PM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WIRELESS-LAN > Digest - 28 Aug 2020 to 29 Aug 2020 (#2020-156) > > > > *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of Salem State University. > Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and > know the content is safe. > > Brian > > > > In my experience (YMMV) light poles have photo cells which would prevent > proper power from being fed to your APs during the day. In my case, it’s > even worse, there is one “loop” that feeds the power to all poles on > campus, so all poles light up at the same time, I cannot only power one up, > say because I have an AP on it but not on the others. And we’re not even > talking about convincing the power people to let you put something on > “their” pole... > > > > Hanging from roof is just a huge hassle, too high anyways and the cost in > wiring in addition to the loss you would get even using LMR600 would be too > much trouble IMO. > > > > So either bollards or some kind of a pole or even a skinned building-side > solution could be best. If you have bus stop enclosures that are > heated/cooled, maybe they could help you cover the area? > > > > > > *Manon Lessard* > Chargée de programmation et d’analyse > > CCNP, CWNE #275, AWA 10, ESCE Design > > Direction des technologies de l'information > > Pavillon Louis-Jacques-Casault > 1055, avenue du Séminaire > Bureau 0403 > Université Laval, Québec (Québec) > > G1V 0A6, Canada > > 418 656-2131, poste 412853 > Télécopieur : 418 656-7305 > > *manon.less...@dti.ulaval.ca* <manon.less...@dti.ulaval.ca> > *www.dti.ulaval.ca* > <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dti.ulaval.ca%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cbhelman%40SALEMSTATE.EDU%7Cfc8bd467990146bb49ae08d84de48ecd%7C70d32b73b45749d1950c4f78aeffc21b%7C0%7C1%7C637344991339749072&sdata=X3bD%2BZW1oplw0EiFEam1wRRTRBkFgRvda7ZvDrayuRg%3D&reserved=0> > > *Avis relatif à la confidentialité | Notice of Confidentiality* > <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rec.ulaval.ca%2Flce%2Fsecurite%2Fconfidentialite.htm&data=02%7C01%7Cbhelman%40SALEMSTATE.EDU%7Cfc8bd467990146bb49ae08d84de48ecd%7C70d32b73b45749d1950c4f78aeffc21b%7C0%7C1%7C637344991339759065&sdata=tA094tCnH9%2B7ZjVqSV3xY8AkkButPMTIZpx4%2Fwss6JM%3D&reserved=0> > > > > > > *From: *The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv < > *WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU* <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> > on behalf of Brian Helman <*bhel...@salemstate.edu* > <bhel...@salemstate.edu>> > *Reply-To: *The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv < > *WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU* <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> > *Date: *Monday, August 31, 2020 at 3:18 PM > *To: *"*WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU* > <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" < > *WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU* <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> > *Subject: *Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WIRELESS-LAN > Digest - 28 Aug 2020 to 29 Aug 2020 (#2020-156) > > > > [Externe UL*] > > Well, you saved me from having to look for bollards. Our Facilities > people are not in favor of us putting anything on the roofs, so now I’m > back to looking at ground level. Everyone wants wireless in the quad, but > no one wants the actual gear installed. Right now, I’m leaning to mounting > them on existing light poles, but this is good info to have. > > > > Thanks, > > Brian > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv < > *WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU* <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> > *On Behalf Of *Jennifer Minella > *Sent:* Monday, August 31, 2020 3:08 PM > *To:* *WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU* > <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WIRELESS-LAN Digest - 28 Aug > 2020 to 29 Aug 2020 (#2020-156) > > > > *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of Salem State University. > Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and > know the content is safe. > > Brian, > > This isn’t exactly what you were asking but most enclosure manufacturers > (like Ventev) make AP concealment / aesthetics products for both indoor and > outdoor. As an example, these bollards are popular with several of our > university clients. 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