I saw those, but assumed they were lightning arrestors.

On Wednesday, Nov 13, 2002, at 20:02 US/Central, Kurt A.F. Kiesow III wrote:

Jim & the group:

If you look at the photos, & I believe one of the descriptions, you'll
notice that they are using 1 watt amps...  I won't do the math...

kk

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[mailto:wireless-admin@;lists.bawug.org]On Behalf Of Jim Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 17:11
To: Daniel Kluge
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [BAWUG] HPWREN does 72 miles with 802.11b



FCC ptp rules in 2.4 say you're allowed up to 30dBm tx power with 6dBi
of antenna gain,
and must reduce tx power by 1 dBm for every 3 dBi of antenna gain over
6.

Assume that the dish pictured is 30dBi (difficult, but not impossible):
   30 - (30-6)/3 = 22 dBm of tx power allowed.

The Lucent/Orinoco/Agere cards used put up 18dBm, so I'd say they're
running inside the rules.

They must be running KarlNet/Turbo Cell on that link.  Otherwise, the
SIFS/ACK timing wouldn't work.   If they
are, then its not 802.11 (much less 802.11b!)  While HPWREN never
claims it as an 802.11(b) link, lots of other
places (/., the original poster here) do.

Jim
p.s. note that you can run up to 23dBm (200mW) of tx power with a 27dBi
antenna (again, ptp rules).

On Wednesday, Nov 13, 2002, at 15:50 US/Central, Daniel Kluge wrote:

I just stumbled over an article, that Hans-Werner Braun at HPWREN upped
the ante a little bit for point-to-point links. They are doing 72 miles
over water using 40 inch grid antennas and apparently standard Wi-Fi
cards

You can read it in HPWREN's press-release here:
http://hpwren.ucsd.edu/news/021101.html

Or the following article (which has some errors in it):
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=77&ncid=77&e=2&u=/mc/
20021113/tc_mc/san_diego_wireless_net_installs_72_mile_2_4_ghz_link

Cheers,
-daniel
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