I totally agree with you. Secure out of the box would be the best for all. Unfortunately they would probably lose some sales, although I would get more consulting out of it.....
-d >Going to the Klink defines responsibility in a rather absolute way. I would love it if the manufactureres made >security the default shipping condition so I would have to follow instructions to enter MAC addresses to those >cards I wished to grant access. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Seoane, Dan Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 7:45 PM To: 'Enrique LaRoche'; 'Scott Douglass'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [BAWUG] anyone ever get in trouble with AT&T? >Look I'm a technical neophyte I just go to Frys and hook up the stuff >they sell me...if some one drives by my house >and warchalks me what do I know about that? >Then don't leave it open.... Use WEP. >What is wep? What is WEP? But yet you know it can be hacked.... >I dont have anything to hide If someone wants to get technical then let them. I am not lending them my car and >giving them the keys. It is not my proactive responsibility to >guarantee the security of an access point. WEP can >be hacked. Is it still my responsibility if they send a nasty to the whitehouse? If I have no wireless and a >Burglar comes in and sits at my computer and hacks the Whitehouse is >this my responsibility? Not! Ever Notice the >Cat 5 sockets in the Wallmart Parking lot? I havent checked but perhaps they are hot? >Legally I am not responsible for the purchases made with my Stolen >credit card or my fraululently obtained ID, Why >do you thing I am somehow responsible for an e-mail sent on my bandwidth if I have no knowlege of the transaction? >If the Government is concerned then let the government regulate the industry and force the Manufacturers to provide >a secure device rather than burdening the incompetent with responsibilities for things they have no understanding >of. >Think "Seat belts and airbags.." You are not required to install some >do it yourself Airbags are you? I did not say you were responsible I said "you better have a way to show it was someone else or your going to the klink"..... In other words, take some responsibility before the gov't does step in and try to regulate this thing. Yes I do agree that the Pandora's box has been opened and it may be a little late but taking the Microsoft approach to life is not the right way either. Take 1 min. in life and read the instructions. If you want to allow people to use your bandwidth that is fine, but don't bit-h if AT&T shuts you down. Find a provider like Covad or Speakeasy that is wireless friendly and you won't have to worry...... -d ************** Look at it from this point. If someone sits in the street and borrows your bandwith to break into the whitehouse, guess who there coming after? You, better have a way to show it was someone else or your going to the klink.... -d -- general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
