APs are
Linksys wap11, version2.2 originally , bridge mode.
It took me a few months and many firmware changes forward and backward
before I realised what total crap linksys sells.
The first problem with the link was the inability of the protocol in
the linksys radios to accomodate large link length.  Each packet sent
would be resent 40 to 50 times because of what I deemed to be a rigid
AckWindow.  One ping would result in 50 DUP replies.
Throughput was around 400-500 kbit/sec.

  As a possibly suicidal firmware upgrade I flashed the
Dlink-900AP+ firmware into the linksys.  This reduced the resends
down to a mere :-) 11 retries per packet.  One ping now gives 11 DUPs.
Throughput has gone to 600-700 kbits/sec.

It was after that change in the firmware that I began to study the tidal
induced outages. Have gathered only about 6 running weeks of data.

Another wireless link operator here has higher elevation over water than I
do, and he is using SMC radios over a shorter path (6.5km).  His link does
not go down, but he has paid attention to his link quality and that
quality decreases as the high tide reaches its peak.
I expect the tidal effects on radio propogation would remain in place
without at least one diversity antenna on one end of the link.

Thanks for the reference to the wet11, I note I can change the wireless
card therein, so I might consider that.  I would be ridiculed locally for
buying another linksys, though.

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andy barlak


On Sat, 1 Nov 2003, Jon King wrote:

> I don't know.
> I saw your graph, but I know that from my own extended experience with wap
> 11's that the problem is more likely in your AP's.
> I've been up and down with wap11's and distance links and the only good
> conclusion is that if you need a reliable link over distance, don't buy
> linksys.
> I suffered through one and a half years of broadcasting across my
> neighborhood (about 1 mile) and that link wen't down for all sorts of
> reasons.
> temperature, firmware, user traffic (one guy knocked me offline evertime he
> would try and update his Tivo across my network), 2.4 ghz phones,
> neighboring AP's and again firware.
>
> it's been a while since I saw the original post, can you refresh my memory:
> 2 wap11's, what mode are they in?
> I'd start with a little science project and replace one radio with a wet11.
> perhaps both.
> anyone had any experience with distance links and using two wet11's?
> with the right firmware I've found they can restore a failing link on their
> own better than the wap11's.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> > Perhaps it is just the fresnel zone changing as the height of the water
> changes.
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