in theory, the path-loss coefficient in LOS is 2.0.

In practice, its never that low (except under constrained examples).

I gave a general equation (that is simple to use) yesterday.  You
followed up with something that doesn't even apply except in the most
unique of circumstance.

jim

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> Jim
> 
> As I said this is a rule of thumb and mainly for outdoor LOS setups. This is what 
> most wisp uses, as do we, for a general idea for
> judging distances and in the field it works well.
> 
> Sincerely,  Tony Morella 
> Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider 
> Office: 908-996-7995 Fax: 908-847-0202
> http://www.demarctech.com 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Thompson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 5:47 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: 'Ivan Bojer'; 'BayArea Wireless UserGroup'
> Subject: RE: [BAWUG] Antenna db gain and range
> 
> 
> This is only (ever) true if your path-loss coefficient is '2.0', which it almost 
> never is.  In fact, in "metro-urban" environments,
> it can be 4.0, or higher, and indoor office environments typically range between 3.0 
> adn 3.5 (but can go higher).
> 
> If your path-loss coefficient is 4.0, then your 6dBm of additional ERIP will only 
> get you 1.5dB more in range, or about 1.4X the
> range of the solution that is down 6dBm in EIRP.
> 
> Jim
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > A simple rule of thumb is every 3dBm doubles your power and every 6dBm doubles 
> > your distance.
> > 
> > Sincerely,  Tony Morella
> > Demarc Technology Group, A Wireless Solution Provider
> > Office: 908-996-7995 Fax: 908-847-0202 http://www.demarctech.com
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ivan Bojer
> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 3:37 PM
> > To: BayArea Wireless UserGroup
> > Subject: [BAWUG] Antenna db gain and range
> > 
> > I know this question is very vague, but still I wonder if there is an answer to it.
> > 
> > Is there a theoretical formula that links antenna dB gain with 
> > increase in maximum range of the wireless signal. I understand that in 
> > theory RF signal range is infinity, but I can not figure out if there is a 
> > correlation between antenna dB gain and signal range at
> certain frequency. Following the common logic it is obvious that range will increase 
> as antenna has better dB gain, but how much?
> > 
> > A formula for electric field goes something like: 
> > E=9500*power/distance (I might be wrong about this), but this does not take in 
> > account the frequency of our signal.
> > 
> > P.S. I am not concerned with terrain configuration, weather condition, and other 
> > factors at this time.
> > 
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