Well, Johnny,
A business plan is a package of paper that one puts together in the spare time they have before they start to implement said plan and find out they had no clue what they were doing, and now that they are doing something else, they no less about what they are doing. :)
I have not read mine in 8 months. Wonder what I said I would be doing this week.
Scott Reed
Owner
NewWays
Wireless Networking
Network Design, Installation and Administration
www.nwwnet.net
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From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:43:50 -0500
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Lanyard and positioning straps (last chance tosave
mylife)
> Scott
- I really hate to blow the whistle on your post to Brian - but - I myself like
many many dozens of others on the list - want to know - What is a Business Plan
!
LOL
>
> JohnnyO
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Brian Rohrbacher
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:41
PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA]
Lanyard and
positioning straps (last chance tosave mylife)
>
> Let me
say
it this way. I don't want to pay for it.
>
> Scott Reed
wrote:
Some
of this gets down to a very basic problem. If you can't afford to get
the proper training, what else can you not afford? Customers do not
care what you can or can not afford. The care about the service you
provide.
>
> I would suggest going back to your business plan
and
reviewing the whole thing. How much money do you have? What do
you need to get started? What would be nice to get started? I
left out the cost of someone to climb my leased tower and it is killing the
business plan. I don't have much choice, even if I climbed, I could
not afford the insurance the owner requires any more than I can afford the
climber. My point is, I can't afford the climber, but I can't afford
not to hire him. Your customer service will be terrible if you
fall. Even 20 feet and only in the hospital for a week could ruin a
startup.
>
> I do not climb, never will. Personal thing.
So I am not offering advice for climbing. It is a red flag to me
when someone is starting up and says "I can not afford ..." I don't
care if it is training, carrier grade equipment, or a screwdriver.
That statement says to me that the business plan is not complete.
>
> Scott Reed
> Owner
> NewWays
>
Wireless Networking
> Network
Design, Installation and Administration
> www.nwwnet.net
>
> ---------- Original
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> From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>
Sent:
Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:08:25 -0400
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lanyard and
positioning straps (last chance tosave mylife)
>
> > Brain,
> >
> > > I still
believe that common sense
if better than an educated idiot.
> >
> > I fully agree
with you.
However, what you fail to realise is that if you
> >
consider
yourself a common sense person, and you get training, you will be a
>
>
trained common sense person. Which is better than a common sense
person
> > alone. You will also fine that most trainers are not
idiots.
No matter how
> > much training someone is given, if they
are an
idiot they have no business
> > climbing either.
> >
> >
There is a reason, that people like Bob are so attimate about their advise.
> > They know what you don't know.
> >
> > I
also consider my
self a common sense person, but I just made a perfect
> > example
of
how a common sense person can make a mistake, by not taking the
>
>
time to think of everything, which often happens when someone does not have
> > a lot of expereinece to reinforce memory. "IF you do
that,
you know at
> > minimum, you won't fall to your death." In
reality that should have read,
> > "you MAY not fall to your
death.".
I forgot to ask what type of tower you
> > were climbing
before
advising, and forgot to consider a simple basic concept
> > that
Bob
mentioned, tie-off doesn't help if you are tied to something that
>
>
can't withstand the force of a fall.
> >
> > One of the
reasons,
Tower Climbing advice threads are not popular is that it
> >
portays
the messages that Climbing can be a casual do it your self thing,
>
>
jsut like installing a WIFI AP. But the last I heard, no one has ever
been
> > killed by a WIFI AP. Tower Climbing is serious
business,
and shouldn't be
> > done lightly.
> >
> > I'm
was in the
same position as you are, I couldn't justify paying $2000
> >
everytime
that I needed an antenna adjusted, I had to learn more about it,
>
> so
I could climb as an option when needed. But there is significant risk
in
> > doing that. I got the same backlash that you did on
this
list. The
> > difference is that I took their advice, and learned
more
about it, before
> > taking the risk. At minimum, you should
find
an experienced person to go
> > with you for the first climb, and
its
not likely that that will be free.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Tom DeReggi
> > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> >
> >
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> >
> > -----
Original Message
-----
> > From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>
>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA]
Lanyard and positioning straps (last chance tosave
> > mylife)
> >
> > > "IF you do that, you know at minimum, you won't fall to
your
death."
> > >
> > > I consider myself very
observant.
I will also always look for any piece
> > > of the tower
that
could be compromised. I understand that just because it
> >
>
still stands does not mean it is safe. I still believe that common
sense
> > > if better than an educated idiot.
> >
>
> >
>
> > > Tom DeReggi wrote:
> > >
> >
>> Brian,
> > >>
> > >> I fully agree with George.
Only
issue is that when you start young, you
> > >> usually don't
know
what you don't know, and become over confident. So be
> > >>
cautious about that. I see it way to often. The advantage of
people
> > >> that start out working for someone else in a
specific trade, is they
> > >> learn by seeing, and don't
have to
figure it out blind. For example in
> > >> my case, I
took
a path of self employment instead of going to college. I
>
>
>> was making good money so I didn't think I needed the formal
training. It
> > >> took 10 years into my business
for me
to realize what I didn't know, and
> > >> how if I had that
knowledge I may have been more successful in my
> > >>
ventures.
I am now working hard to correct those weaknesses, but I wish
>
>
>> I did it 10 years ago. My point is not to pass any judgement
on your
> > >> expertise, just advising that you recognize
your
weaknesses, so that you
> > >> are in the position to
address
them, apposed to overlook them. As far as
> > >> tower
climbing, I hired someone to do my first couple installs. And I
>
>
>> made sure that I was there every single moment to watch and learn.
It was
> > >> invaluable to me, before climbing myself.
> >
>>
> > >> The reality is, its near the same cost to
take a
course as it is to pay
> > >> someone for a day to install
your
gear. So thats one of the reasons the
> > >> advise is
to
take a course, by many. Its sorta like sky diving, its
> >
>> generally a good idea to have someone experienced around the first
time.
> > >> If you make a mistake, the penalty can be
severe.
> > >>
> > >> But if you member two simple
rules,
you'll probably be OK. Always have
> > >> atleast one other
person around, so if you get in trouble they can call
> > >>
for
help. Second, use a Dual Tie-off shock zorber lanyard. One of the
> > >> two clamps should be fastened to the tower at all
times.
When you go to
> > >> move one, the other always stays
fastened.
Then once the first one is
> > >> fastened again, you move
the
second one. And of cource the other end
> > >> gets
attached to the BACK D-Ring. IF you do that, you know at minimum,
> > >> you won't fall to your death.
> > >>
> >
>> Tom DeReggi
> > >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> >
>>
> > >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
>>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "George"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>
>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 11:21 AM
> > >>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lanyard and positioning straps (last chance to save
> > >> mylife)
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>>> Brian :)
> > >>> Your only 21 years old,
CONGRATS!
> > >>>
> > >>> When I read
about guys
like you and Kurt , who is still in high school
> > >>>
and
running a wisp, it makes me happy and proud of you guys that are
>
>
>>> starting life embracing a business and making a go at it.
> > >>>
> > >>> So keep up the hard
work,
someday you'll look back on this era of your
> > >>> life
and
understand why your a success at what ever you will be doing
> >
>>> then.
> > >>>
> > >>> I
strongly
believe in young people getting involved and participating
>
>
>>> in the business world.
> > >>>
> >
>>> It's a sign of independence and ingenuity, which is what drives
the
> > >>> American way.
> > >>>
> >
>>> Congrats again!
> > >>>
> >
>>>
George
> > >>>
> > >>> Brian
Rohrbacher wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Sure is nice to
ask for
advice and be insulted. If you know so much
> >
>>>>
about how I climb, tell me what I have done wrong. Or start asking me
> > >>>> trick questions that I'll answer wrong.
Than
you may insult me.
> > >>>>
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