I would love a deal like this!

Jory Privett
WCCS

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Blair Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering - WISPBONE


Thanks.  Best offer I have now is $1200/month for 5Mbit with a $3000
setup.  Also, 6 months to get setup.

With that pricing, I'm sure you see why I am jealous of $25/Mbit that
some guys get....

Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

> Hey Blair,
> Hit me up if there is anything we can work on together with this whole 
> project.  I think Michwave has fiber in Grand Rapids.......
>
> Blair Davis wrote:
>
>> Nice map.  Nothing anywhere near me, of course... :-(
>>
>> Matt Liotta wrote:
>>
>>> XO's map is available at their web site.
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>>
>>> Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there a list so we can all see the locations?  Are you able to 
>>>> get principal members of WISPA any deals?
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> Jory Privett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would be interested in finding out if one of there switches is 
>>>>> in my area.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jory Privett
>>>>> WCCS
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:34 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering - WISPBONE
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a national wholesale agreement with XO, which among other 
>>>>> things can get us very low cost colo and roof rights at their 
>>>>> switches.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Matt
>>>>>
>>>>> Anthony Will wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>> In central MN here also.   I would be very interested in a 
>>>>>> project such as this.  This is the ONLY way we will truly 
>>>>>> survive.  I am currently working on a way to get into the Metro 
>>>>>> area to gain access to cheap pipes.  Hopefully we will end up in 
>>>>>> XO's or calpops CO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See how easy it is to get something like this started.  I know 
>>>>>> that I am south of Mike.  I also know that two other WISPs are 
>>>>>> south of me all the way to Iowa.  Now if we can get those guys on 
>>>>>> board anyone in Iowa or Illanios is likely close enough to make 
>>>>>> this real.  NOW from Illanios it really opens up.....  I am an 
>>>>>> old friend to an operation on the west side of Chicago connected 
>>>>>> to Equinix, one of the largest carriers hotels in the nation.  
>>>>>> Now with all the wisps together we could easily afford an OCx and 
>>>>>> get some real pricing.  And with everyone sharing in the expense 
>>>>>> we could make this licensed equipment for a rock solid backbone 
>>>>>> for all of our networks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anthony Will
>>>>>> Ruralnet Inc.
>>>>>> www.veryfastinternet.com (please excuse the cheesy site.  We are 
>>>>>> in process of completely reworking a new site.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Bushard Jr wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm in, Central MN
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike Bushard Jr
>>>>>>> Reliable Internet Services
>>>>>>> 1st Rate Computers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Brian Webster
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:10 PM
>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering - WISPBONE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>>>>    Well we led a session that started a dialog on this topic. It 
>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>> quite
>>>>>>> loud at times..... The end result was I am willing to donate 
>>>>>>> time to map out
>>>>>>> in one location all of the data people send me with locations of 
>>>>>>> POP's,
>>>>>>> fiber hotels and other inexpensive sources of bandwidth. This 
>>>>>>> could be from
>>>>>>> any source like fiber (lit or dark) or companies that have 
>>>>>>> bandwidth to
>>>>>>> sell. If there are WISP's who want to share the backbones they 
>>>>>>> have, we can
>>>>>>> map them too. I basically just need a list of locations by lat 
>>>>>>> and long or
>>>>>>> street address. If I can get enough different sources of data I 
>>>>>>> will map it
>>>>>>> and make it available on line. The idea is that WISP's can see 
>>>>>>> how far away
>>>>>>> from cheap backhaul they really are and then they can figure out 
>>>>>>> a way to
>>>>>>> bring it to their location. This could also serve as a way to 
>>>>>>> get regional
>>>>>>> groups together to build a mutually beneficial backbone. The 
>>>>>>> mapping can
>>>>>>> have clickable information about each site if that is included 
>>>>>>> in the data
>>>>>>> sent.
>>>>>>>    If this starts to take off the idea was suggested that a 
>>>>>>> national
>>>>>>> group or
>>>>>>> co-op be formed to manage this backbone so that one person or 
>>>>>>> company could
>>>>>>> not bring down or segment part of the network. There were many 
>>>>>>> ideas and
>>>>>>> issues brought up about this. I don't want to get this thread 
>>>>>>> started on all
>>>>>>> of that. I really just want to see where were are with access to 
>>>>>>> cheap
>>>>>>> bandwidth and how we might be able to stitch together an ad hoc 
>>>>>>> backbone for
>>>>>>> the time being. Anyone who is interested in this project please 
>>>>>>> send me an
>>>>>>> email with WISPBONE in the subject line. I will create a 
>>>>>>> distribution list
>>>>>>> for now and if we get it going we can set up a list somewhere to 
>>>>>>> have an
>>>>>>> online forum. To date I have no input from any of the people who 
>>>>>>> were in the
>>>>>>> session. Just like most of these good ideas, I feel it will die 
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> everyone is too busy with their own business and they hope 
>>>>>>> someone else will
>>>>>>> get it going.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank You,
>>>>>>> Brian Webster
>>>>>>> www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
>>>>>>> Free World Dialup #481416
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Brian Rohrbacher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:28 PM
>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nationwide Peering
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was told to bring this up after WiNog.  Well.......????
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
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