If I publish a web page, who are you to modify it before displaying it
to a user? I'd start getting annoyed if my web page displayed differently depending on whose network it flows thru.... I also feel that this is a bad idea in general because I think it could end up weakening the 'safe harbor' provisions that protect us from liability over data content. We are not censors. Beyond the monitoring needed to assure network integrity, we do not monitor or censor our users in any way and we do not plan to. IMO, we should not modify the data flowing to the user in any way without the express, informed consent of the user. If a user wants you to censor, modify or block pages, fine.... if you wish to offer that service. For liability reasons, we choose not to. Eric DaVersa wrote: Agreed, but there is a free lunch...for the web publishers and ad servers you allow to sell over your pipes.Take the old example of the Internet as a highway. You've built a highway (your wireless network) and people (your customers) pay to drive on it. Along the way there are billboard advertisements (web ads.) You collect nothing from the billboards that people view. In essence, the advertisers get a free lunch from your highway. Adzilla basically gives you the opportunity to place your own billboards in front of those existing billboards so that you, as the highway operator, can receive a revenue share. Mark, I don't mean to pick on you here and I apologize if my replies come off as arrogant or inappropriate in any way. I appreciate your questioning and "devil's advocate" approach. These lists are certainly good for digging through the facts. Peter R. sent an email for those interested in participating in a webinar. Also, an Adzilla exec will be at WISPNOG. Respectfully, Eric DaVersa Vice-President, Business Development NetLogix OFFICE: 858.764.1998 CELL: 858.245.6702 FAX: 858.764.1982 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 1:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla & Revenue Streams "There is no free lunch." this is the most concise, most accurate, and wisest words ever spoken, on the subject of economics. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric DaVersa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla & Revenue StreamsThe simple answer to that is "don't use that option." The ad optimization is transparent and its basically free money. I usually have to say it 3 times before ISPs start to understand the concept, so in the interest of saving time... It's free money, it's free money, and - you guessed it - it's stillfreemoney. Eric DaVersa Vice-President, Business Development NetLogix OFFICE: 858.764.1998 CELL: 858.245.6702 FAX: 858.764.1982 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]OnBehalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla & Revenue Streams North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES!---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric DaVersa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:57 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla & Revenue StreamsFor a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as partofthe package. You have a GUI interface where you can insertmessagingDIRECT TO THE DESKTOP. This means, "Dear Customer, your payment is7days past due, your account will be shut off if you do not paywithinxhours."I think if I tried that with my customers, I would be losing, not gaining, customers. The notion of inserting something into thier data is...toointrusive for me to consider. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES!---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC |
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