But that's just the last mile local loop -- what about the ATM DS-3 circuit coming back (and so forth) Then there's servicing costs / etc
Keep in mind -- Bell copper has been amortized for quite a long time now -- and has been installed at almost a 100% penetration rate -- if you're building your own infrastructure (wireless per say) -- do you realistically believe that you're monthly costs for transport (inclusive from your NOC to the customer's house) is less? -Charles ------------------------------------------- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 12:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Save the Internet (Net Neutrality) It is? IIRC, the tariff price of 1.5 meg DSL from BellSouth is $23.95. -Matt Charles Wu wrote: >But what about oversubscription? >Transit costs aside, the cost of last-mile transport of even 1 Mbps of >data "pipe" is still far more than $20-30 / month What happens when >users actually start *using* the bandwidth they are *promised*... > >-Charles > >------------------------------------------- >CWLab >Technology Architects >http://www.cwlab.com > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Matt Liotta >Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 8:46 AM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Save the Internet (Net Neutrality) > > >Content is supposed to get a free ride since we all sell data pipes. If >a customer buys 1 meg of data service from me then they are free to use >that 1 meg for whatever they want. If that isn't enough bandwidth for >what they want then they better buy more. Over time will the customer be >able to buy more bandwidth for less money? Sure, that trend has been >going on for a long time now. Does that mean content providers are >getting a free ride? No, they still have to pay transit costs on their >side. Although, we are certainly peering with as many content providers >as we can to reduce our transit costs and increase our customers' >quality. Its pretty hot shit when you are 4ms away from Google and you >don't have to pay for it. > >-Matt > >George Rogato wrote: > > > >>It is a stretch peter. >> >>But you have to look at both ends of the argument, if you agree >>content providers will prevail in the future and you accept that the >>pipe has to get bigger, you can only come to the conclusion that the >>provider will have increased costs. >> >>Can the wisp actually raise thier prices while the telco and cable ops >>lower theirs? Not likely. >> >>The burden has to be shared by the content providers. I'm not saying >>make google pay per click, but movies and heavy consumption content >>can't get a free ride. >> >>So what should we do? >> >>George >> >> >> >> >>Peter R. wrote: >> >> >> >>>That is one huge IF! Cuz how would they make money? >>> >>>If it did happen, you could always change your pricing model. Isn't >>>there a clause in your AUP about total usage in a month? How about 30 >>>days notice to affect a price change? >>> >>>- Peter >>>RAD-INFO, Inc. >>> >>> >>>George Rogato wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>I don't know , Travis, web pages voip ftp streaming music occasional >>>>movies low bandwidth streaming video, no problem. >>>> >>>>But what if, what if tomorrow Travis wakes up and reads in his >>>>newspaper that the local cable company or satellite co is going to >>>>offer a substantial discount if the just unplug the cable wire and >>>>plug in that new set top box into their isp's little router and get >>>>ALL their tv that way. >>>> >>>>Wouldn't you ask, why can you guys use my network to feed your >>>>customers. >>>> >>>>Wouldn't you start wondering if those p4 routers and DS3's you got >>>>there be enough to handle that type of traffic? Would you have to >>>>upgrade your infrastructure to accomadate this? >>>> >>>>What if it was google, yahoo, msn, att or even verizon that was >>>>offering this as a way to reach customers without trying to build >>>>local infrastructure? >>>> >>>>I'm realizing I'm exaggerating this some, at least for the near >>>>future, but if this scenario was to take place, what would you be >>>>saying then? >>>> >>>>George >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> > > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
