>30% of what number Charles? 

At the last show, 500+ attended representing about 350ish operators
Of these, about 40% responded

Unfortunately, we have a confidentiality agreement with our survey
respondents, so I cannot list names

>How many WISPs said they have over 1,000 CPE. I can only think of about 20
with that high a number. 

A recent Tim Saunders article in BBW World alone that showed about 40+
Wireless Network Operators w/ 1,000+ CPE (and there are a lot more that Tim
missed)

Keep in mind, the majority of these operators no longer actively participate
in these list-servs, most of em are busy out in the field installing
customers / running their businesses =)

Did you know that in Sedona, AZ alone (middle of no-where in Northern AZ
mountains), w/ a total population of ~15k, there are 2 Operators w/ 1,000+
CPE? (and there's also cable and DSL competition in town too)

Even at the end of my equipment distribution days (late 2004), I had at
least 50 customers whom I'd been working with over the years who had
purchased over 1,000 CPE from me...I know for sure that most of these guys
are still operating and in business

If you think about it, 1,000 isn't all that much -- take a look at the
numbers

If you've been a WISP since 2001, and you've been steadily buying CPE /
installing 20 net new customers (minus churn, etc) / month (~ 1 install /
working day / month), in over 5 years time (e.g., today in 2006), you'd have
1,200 customers

Nowadays, w/ $150-$200 turn-key WISP CPE pricing (Motorola, Tranzeo,
Trango), it's hard to even buy CPE in anything smaller than a 20-pack

-Charles

P.S. -- now another interesting statistics is the "top-end" of the
license-exempt operator market -- although a lot of people nowadays have
over 1,000 CPE installed, ALMOST NONE have been able to successfully scale
beyond the 10,000 CPE level -- still trying to figure that one out...


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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:35 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!


Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:34 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] This is HUGE!

Some interesting statistics -- 30% of the WISPs who attended our last WiNOG
"claimed" on their surveys they had been in the wireless business for more
than 5 years and had more than 1k wireless CPE deployed in the field

Less than 10% of them claimed to be "pure-play" license-exempt fixed
wireless providers

This is why we call them Wi- "NOGs" instead of "ISPs" nowadays

Don't forget, a lot of rural telcos / CLECs / ILECs (e.g., the "enemy") have
gotten into license-exempt fixed wireless...

-Charles

P.S. - I heard a rumor that the current UL market leader, Motorola Canopy
sold close to $100 million in gear last year alone 

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jack Unger
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] This is HUGE!



Hopefully, the 8% (6,000,000) figure includes ONLY end-users who use 
wireless broadband to get to/from their home and NOT the end-users who 
have a copper/fiber-based (cable/telco) broadband connection to their 
home and then use a Wi-Fi router/access point that provides the "final 
50-ft" connection wirelessly.

There's so much sloppy and innacurate "journalism" these days that I 
need reassurance that the article means what it appears to be saying.

If there are 6,000,000 end-users and if there are 5000 WISPs then each 
WISP would, on average, have 1,200 subscribers. I'm not sure that this 
passes the "sniff" test.
                           jack


John Scrivner wrote:

> Check this out from the Pew report. It appears that fixed wireless is
> much
> bigger than what even I thought. According to this report 8% of all
broadband 
> connections in the US are delivered via fixed broadband wireless. That
means you 
> guys! Woo Hoo!
> Scriv
> 
> 
> 

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