I still believe that there's no money in voip for the service provider.
Not in the long term.
Yes, but there may be no money in wireless connectivity either, if you loose
all your subs to competitiors that offered voice, because consumers want
VOIP.
Or at least they think they do. Once they figure out VOIP may not be all
they imagined, you already lost them, and they likely won't want to waste
their time switching back with out adequate reason. I'd argue its worth
selling VOIP, even if jsut at a breakeven, just so all the otehr VOIP
cusotmers won;t constantly blaim your wireless network for the cause of
their low VOIP quality, and cause bad will.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS
Marlon,
He did say he was selling to SMB, not Resi.
Very few small businesses are going to use Yahoo, AIM, or MS as a
dial-tone replacement. Skype is free within the US now, so some will try
that, but there are security concerns (growing daily) about VoIP,
especially with the mandatory CALEA compliance.
(http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,19495174%5E24170%5E%5Enbv%5E24169,00.html)
Weekly, ISPs come to me to offer VoIP. After the CommPartners mess, I
stopped referring clients to anyone. You just don't know what the Wizard
of Oz is really doing. Doing it yourself is difficult. When you take over
the dial-tone of a business, you better make sure that you have 5 Nines of
reliability with redundancy built-in, because if the phones are working,
they are losing customers.
And, Marlon, you are correct - most VoIP Providers are NOT making any
money. 4Q05 delta3 did $9.1M in revenue and kept $25k in income. MSOs are
probably making $$ on VoIP because they own the network, charge a higher
rate, and have fixed modems that mitigate the 911 issue. The top 7 MSOs
now have 10M VoIP users.
When you consider that many CLECs like USLEC, FDN, ITC only have 25k
customers and can barely eek out a living using wireline, you have to
consider that VoIP may be difficult to profit on, too.
Many will tell me that they are killing it - profitably - but these same
companies have less than 1000 broadband subscribers. At a 15% take rate,
that is 150 VoIP users. That is manageble and using Asterisk and a CLEC
PRI in a small region could be profitable, before scale, growth, and scope
start to weigh you down.
Regards,
Peter
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
I still believe that there's no money in voip for the service provider.
Not in the long term.
The money will be in the ability to offer good voip capacity but not the
voip it's self.
Yeah, I know, there are people making money with voip. I heard that song
and dance about hot spots too. IF you are one of the few out that with
just the right model, capabilities, market etc. good for you.
For the rest of the WISP market, there's far more money to be made over
the years offering transport. Especially if the trend for DSL and cable
companies to mess up other people's voip continues.
Here's the real nail in the coffin of voip:
http://im.yahoo.com/feat_voice.php;_ylt=AlRactYLuOa7.Wxwqq5epPBwMMIF
And that's just ONE provider. More are bound to come.
Marlon
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