I think the problem is most WISP's don't realize the extra support costs
for VoIP. More support calls, longer troubleshooting time, etc... so
really they are loosing money.
I don't believe there is any real money in it either... cell phones will
be the choice 5-10 years from now. VoIP is the bridge to get there. Of
course, I'm talking residential users... business users are a little
different... although we will never switch our business lines (12 of
them) to VoIP. I've never heard a VoIP call that sounded as good as a
POTS line... :)
Travis
Microserv
Tom DeReggi wrote:
I still believe that there's no money in voip for the service
provider. Not in the long term.
Yes, but there may be no money in wireless connectivity either, if you
loose all your subs to competitiors that offered voice, because
consumers want VOIP.
Or at least they think they do. Once they figure out VOIP may not be
all they imagined, you already lost them, and they likely won't want
to waste their time switching back with out adequate reason. I'd
argue its worth selling VOIP, even if jsut at a breakeven, just so all
the otehr VOIP cusotmers won;t constantly blaim your wireless network
for the cause of their low VOIP quality, and cause bad will.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP as a service offering - Skype, Yahoo, MS
Marlon,
He did say he was selling to SMB, not Resi.
Very few small businesses are going to use Yahoo, AIM, or MS as a
dial-tone replacement. Skype is free within the US now, so some will
try that, but there are security concerns (growing daily) about VoIP,
especially with the mandatory CALEA compliance.
(http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,19495174%5E24170%5E%5Enbv%5E24169,00.html)
Weekly, ISPs come to me to offer VoIP. After the CommPartners mess, I
stopped referring clients to anyone. You just don't know what the
Wizard of Oz is really doing. Doing it yourself is difficult. When
you take over the dial-tone of a business, you better make sure that
you have 5 Nines of reliability with redundancy built-in, because if
the phones are working, they are losing customers.
And, Marlon, you are correct - most VoIP Providers are NOT making any
money. 4Q05 delta3 did $9.1M in revenue and kept $25k in income. MSOs
are probably making $$ on VoIP because they own the network, charge a
higher rate, and have fixed modems that mitigate the 911 issue. The
top 7 MSOs now have 10M VoIP users.
When you consider that many CLECs like USLEC, FDN, ITC only have 25k
customers and can barely eek out a living using wireline, you have to
consider that VoIP may be difficult to profit on, too.
Many will tell me that they are killing it - profitably - but these
same companies have less than 1000 broadband subscribers. At a 15%
take rate, that is 150 VoIP users. That is manageble and using
Asterisk and a CLEC PRI in a small region could be profitable, before
scale, growth, and scope start to weigh you down.
Regards,
Peter
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
I still believe that there's no money in voip for the service
provider. Not in the long term.
The money will be in the ability to offer good voip capacity but not
the voip it's self.
Yeah, I know, there are people making money with voip. I heard that
song and dance about hot spots too. IF you are one of the few out
that with just the right model, capabilities, market etc. good for you.
For the rest of the WISP market, there's far more money to be made
over the years offering transport. Especially if the trend for DSL
and cable companies to mess up other people's voip continues.
Here's the real nail in the coffin of voip:
http://im.yahoo.com/feat_voice.php;_ylt=AlRactYLuOa7.Wxwqq5epPBwMMIF
And that's just ONE provider. More are bound to come.
Marlon
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