IMHO. For some reason wifi has gone from being a convenience and hotspot
technology to the 4th leg of broadband for the masses or the 4th leg of
broadband to close the digital divide (meaning 95% or more coverage over a
whole community-large and small). Mesh on the edge could be getting oversold
and at some point "convenience" will be the telling force for deployments
again. I'm waiting for a deployment to prove me wrong but the RFP's I see
for data, voip, and video etc. to the edge are a stretch. I think this may
be what Patrick is trying to say?? 

VOIP is the latest killer application and it brings most wireless networks
to their knees with lots of the products that are shipping today. You'll
hear more and more on this as deployments start getting legs. Wait until
some of the comparisons come out that I have seen from Alvarion and several
well respected customers who have done some substantial voip testing. Data
is hard enough blanketing whole communities with wifi mesh and when voip and
other applications are added the dynamics change quite a bit. Brad

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:06 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi

Our side of the network works well, and while the mesh side is not so
good for residential, nomadic users are using it as are some city
workers. So these networks will never be claimed to be a public failure.
Instead, you may see them quietly transferred for local groups to run if
the big guys building them cannot make a case over time.

But again, our side works well and a major part of the business case is
NOT the residential side, but in selling fixed services to businesses
using the middle layer technology. At the same time, our radios are also
connecting the traffic systems in some case, cameras in some, etc. 

Patrick Leary
AVP Marketing
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt Liotta
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 9:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ma Bell's About Face On Muni-WiFi

Patrick Leary wrote:
> We are on the same page, trust me. There has yet to be a solidly
working
> civic access muni network. By solidly, I mean indoor coverage without
> forced buying of a secondary CPE. We have also yet to see a
successfully
> scaled mesh network for low cost civic access. Philly and San Fran are
> still on paper only. These networks are able to provide good outdoor
> coverage only so far. That is also why we like playing the multipoint
> backhaul layer. We can reliably deliver that middle layer and get high
> connectivity for the mesh nodes, fixed cameras, traffic lights, a city
> buildings, but the success of the Wi-Fi layer is beyond our control
and
> remains the questionable piece.
>   
What happens to Alvarion when these networks fail? Does the market get 
flooded with your radios for pennies on the dollar? Does it make 
customers question the viability of wireless operators in general? We 
are certainly questioned routinely on why we will succeed when WinStar 
and others failed.

-Matt
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