I will follow your lead on this Mark. Thanks for the tip. We have bought used IBM Thinkpads for years for field use with good success but frequent damage. These look like the answer.
Thanks,
Scriv

Mark Koskenmaki wrote:

I KNOW you won't buy a new one.    The new ones are well over 3 grand.

I would not, after getting an older version of one of these, ever consider
taking a "normal" laptop out in the field.    These things are tough, let me
tell you.  Their resistance to damage from being knocked around is real.   I
dropped mine several feet to the carpet while running... No bad effect.

They ARE heavy, however.


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grin.  Not gonna buy a used one for something that important.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Koskenmaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Just keep the laptop home for nice use... and buy one of these for those
site surveys, etc...


http://cgi.ebay.com/ITRONIX-IX260-GOBOOK-II-RUGGED-LAPTOP-1-8GHz-512MB-40GB_W0QQitemZ280025331886QQihZ018QQcategoryZ177QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
:)

Some older versions, like the IX250, have outdoor viewable screens, can
be
dropped without damage, etc, and you can buy them for 300 or less.

I like the touchscreen too.

I have an older version that's tough as nails, has a double pc card
slot...
but limited RAM.   I find the combination of WIN98SE and netstumbler too
unstable with the drivers for an Orinoco card to be useful for site
surveys,
however.   If I could find something that would work,  this would be a
great
tool.    I've dropped it several times already and it's been stepped on
and
kicked around, and bounced around the van a bit and seems utterly
unfazed
by
it all.

I didn't lose much, though.   The laptop cost me just a bit more than a
new
pc card :)   If I recall, it was under $100 with shipping.






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Sorry but that's NOT what I'm after.  I need a dB readout of the signal
levels (use that often for troubleshooting).  This seems to only give
out
a
% (not gonna have a +27dB signal like their manual shows).

Marlon
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry A Weidig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Marlon:
That is the new ExpressCard format that you have on the Dell.
Unfortunately finding cards for it is a waste of time at this point,
hopefully that will change in the near future.  I think what you are
looking for is:

http://www.netgate.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_42&products_id=297
Hope that helps.

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I really don't want something like that.  I want either a radio that
fits
the slot or a usb radio....

Marlon
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----- Original Message ----- From: "JohnnyO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 8:51 AM
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http://sewelldirect.com/usb-to-pcmcia-wireless-adapter.asp?adpath=/Googl
e/Lewis%20Gunter/06-04-04//USB%20to%20PCMCIA//47&keywords=usb%20to%20pcm
cia&match=3&search=search&gclid=CJ73gtvwm4cCFRR4UAodpHP7uA

Marlon - you won't find them less expensive then $175.00 plus
shipping.
Just went through this for a customer.....

Cheaper isn't always better :)~

Fyi - this is the only fix you'll find for your dilema - customer of
ours needed to use their aircards.

JohnnyO

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Hi All,

I FINALLY had my old laptop go nuts.  Some kind of hard drive error.
So
I
have a new one here now.  It's a cheapo Dell.  Has no firewire but I
can
live with that, don't use it anyway.  It also has no PCMCIA slot!
It's
got
a slot that's the right size but the connections inside the slot are
all
wrong.

I need to find an external wireless card that I can hook a cable to
and
get
actual dB data from various antennas.

Anyone have any idea what this is and/or what I can do to make this
work?

thanks,
Marlon
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42846865 (icq)                                    And I run my own
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