On 10/7/06, KyWiFi
LLC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Can you share some info on the $1.50 inductor you reference below?
Do you then ground the inductor to the mounting arm which is then
grounded to an earth ground? Please share if you don't mind, inquiring
minds would LOVE to know. ;-)
Also, where are the bulk of your subscribers located (city/state)? I
would venture to say that WISP's out west have fewer lightning
related failures than WISP's in the East or South.
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling,
Kentucky
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jenco Wireless" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List"
<wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning
I lost 15% of my CPE's one year. It was a dry Summer (I theorize the
earth
was not conducting well), then we had a couple of bad
storms. Using a
$1.50 inductor on the Ethernet cable near the radios really seems to have
helped a lot.
Brad Hagstrom
On 10/7/06, Jason Hensley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Actually, I've been fairly lucky. The only lightning losses
I've had were
> on my tower. I've got one CPE that may have been taken out by
lightning,
> but it came through the house and blew a LOT
of other stuff as well. To
> me,
> to add $30 per install doesn't make sense when I've only lost 1
> (percentage-wise, less than 1% for me) in a little over a year.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "KyWiFi LLC" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List"
<wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning
>
>
> > Lightning is by far the largest threat to our WISP. It would be
> > interesting
> > to know the typical CPE failure rate (due to lightning) experienced
by
> > WISP's. I know that we'll replace 10% (+/- 5%) this year due to
> lightning.
> > We use the $30 Citel brand Cat5 surge protectors on both ends of the
> > outdoor shielded Cat5 and we also ground the mounting arm to an
approved
> > earth ground via 10 guage copper wire. I don't believe we've taken
any
> > direct strikes, mainly blown Ethernet ports on the CPE or AP. IMO,
> owning
> > a WISP would be a LOT less stressful if wireless gear was not so
prone
> to
> > damage caused by lightning.
> >
> > BTW, if you would like to share your own CPE-lightning-failure-rates
> with
> > the list, please do so. Same goes for lightning protection tips,
tricks
> > and
> > wisdom.
> >
> > Anyone using coaxial surge protection on 50% or more of your CPE
> > installations? If so, would you say that it is worth the extra $15 -
$20
> > per install? How do your failure rates with coaxial surge protection
> > compare with installations where there is none?
> >
> >
> > Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
> > KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling,
Kentucky
> > "Your Hometown Broadband Provider"
> > http://www.KyWiFi.com
> > Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
> > ===========================
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> > $14.99 Home Phone Service
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> > - Affordable Upfront Pricing
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> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brent Hegerfeld" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'WISPA General List'"
<wireless@wispa.org>
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:06 PM
> > Subject: RE: [WISPA] lightning
> >
> >
> > Lightning has not been very kind to us the past few
months. Knocked a
> > backhaul out on our main tower, another tower hit 3 times (twice in 1
> > week),
> > another tower hit this past week, going on 10+ CPE's. I'm
told the
> > probability of lightning over the next 4 months is
low. Let's hope.
> >
> > Brent Hegerfeld
> > East Allen High Speed Internet, LLC.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On
> > Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:31 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning
> >
> > We offer an optional $4.99 Equipment Protection Plan for residential
> > subscribers and it's $9.99 for Commercial and Non-Profit accounts.
> > If they wish to waive it, they must furnish us with documentation
from
> > their insurance agency stating that it will be covered. No
exceptions.
> > As a result, approx. 95% of our subscribers purchase our EPP. The
> > added revenue allows us to cover the cost of CPE that gets taken out
> > by lightning and the associated service call fees we incur.
> >
> >
> > Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
> > KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling,
Kentucky
> > "Your Hometown Broadband Provider"
> > http://www.KyWiFi.com
> > Call Us Today: 859.274.4033
> > ===========================
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> > $14.99 Home Phone Service
> > $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV
> > - No Phone Line Required for DSL
> > - FREE Activation & Equipment
> > - Affordable Upfront Pricing
> > - Locally Owned & Operated
> > - We Also Service Most Rural Areas
> > ===========================
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>; "WISPA General List"
<wireless@wispa.org>
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning
> >
> >
> > If it's your equipment and the customer didn't damage it (hit it with
a
> > rock
> > etc.) then
> > it's your problem to deal with.
> >
> > The cheaper the gear, usually the easier it is to break :-).
> >
> > I've had much less trouble this year with cpe from Tranzeo than from
any
> > other brand I've
> > used.
> >
> > Marlon
> > (509)
982-2181
Equipment sales
> > (408) 907-6910
(Vonage) Consulting
services
> > 42846865
(icq) And
I run my own wisp!
> > 64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
> > www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
> > www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: chris cooper
> > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:55 AM
> > Subject: [WISPA] lightning
> >
> >
> > We had the lightning storm of the century here 2 days
ago. It was an
> > awesome spectacle
> > to witness. It was a much more distressing spectacle to
watch our
> network
> > map begin to
> > blink red all over the place. Which leads me to a couple
of questions:
> >
> >
> >
> > How do you handle customer installations that get
fried? We install
> and
> > own the gear.
> > We are taking the external ones on the chin. We took down
one panel
> that
> > has a big black
> > hole right in the center. Another customer has a hole in his roof-
our
> > gear
> > died along
> > with the roof. What do you do if the customer AC takes a shot, and
burns
> > your equipment?
> > Do they pay because it came in on their side or do you take the
> > replacement
> > and the truck
> > roll on the chin because you own the equipment?
> >
> >
> >
> > We have multiple brands of products on the same
towers. The tower that
> > took a hit was
> > populated with, among other things, some B-14s, proxim QB, and some
> > Tranzeos. All units
> > are grounded to the same structure/bussbar. The Tranzeos seem much
more
> > sensitive to
> > lightning than some of the other products. Has anyone had
any similar
> > experiences with
> > them?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Chris
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