Somehow I knew this was coming.... jeje Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:41 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios???? You would have to get in touch w/ a Dragonwave Distributor =) -Charles <--- Dragonwave Distributor who supports WISPA ------------------------------------------- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 11:14 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios???? Charlie... were do I get those prices for dragonwave gear? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios???? Maybe I'm missing something -- but w/ LICENSED Dragonwave 50 Mb radios as low as $8-9k / link, unless you're going to shoot 15+ miles (which isn't really possible w/ the amount of spectrum utilized) why would you even bother messing around w/ such a high-priced unlicensed radio? -Charles P.S. -- Bob, can you ping me offlist w/ your contact info, need to ask you something ------------------------------------------- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 2:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios???? Yes we have Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:03:46 To:"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios???? Bob, They way you wrote it, you are correct its not to bad at all. My post was based on what I thought I read from someone else's post that stated that the 200mbps model (raw) pushed 100mbps of throughput (real), I was assuming based on waste of protocol overhead like Wifi. Trango has a very efficient MAC with little waste. If the the Exalt does real throughput of 100mbps in each direction, than that is a completely different animal and value proposition. And getting 50mbps Full Duplex in 32Mhz, also might be a speed leader in unlicensed. Bob, have you confirmed actual real throughput? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Moldashel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios???? > Tom, > > You're gonna bond 2 atlas links and get close to 100 Mb full > duplex????? > How is that?? > The 200 Mb Exalt is 100 Mb TX /100 Mb RX > > If you use your equation you really need 4 Trango radios which is 5 x > $3000 = $15000 and that will give you 100 mb with 50/50 MIR. Not to > say what you would use up in spectrum (20 Mhz. x 5 = 100 > Mhz......OK...you could play with polarity with good antennas and > probably do better). > > So the Exalt doesn't look that expensive after all........ :-) > > And BTW: I was told to expect MIR control for asymetrical bandwidth > soon... > > -B- > > > Tom DeReggi wrote: > >>> The advertised throughput on a 200 Mhz radio is 100 Mb true >>> throughput >>> in each direction port to port. The radio throughput is based on a 64 >>> Mhz channel. >> >> >> OK so lets compare to Trango Atlas or Alvarion Backhaul (which has >> similar metrics) with equivellent speed models. Taking that maybe >> only 1% >> of my market could pull off a 64Mhz channel. >> >> Exalt Specs... 200rating @ 64Mhz = 100 mbps then >> 100rating @ 32Mhz = 50 mbps... @ $16,000 list. >> This of course being best case based on noise >> level and acheivalbe modulation. >> >> Trango Specs.... 54rating @ 20Mhz = 45 mbps, for $3000. >> So, if I bonded two Atlas Links, I'd get equivelent performance to >> the >> high performance version at 30% less spectrum use, and 1/5 th the cost. >> Now of Course Trango, is Ethernet only, and does not have the wayside T1 >> support or Fiber/GPS features. And there is value to that for someone >> offering Voice services also. >> >> All I'm saying is that the street price sure better be a lot lower >> than >> the list price listed, as you suggeset it is. The second you are in the > >> $15,000 range, you might as well be doing licensed for the extra >> $1000 >> bucks or two to make it survivable. >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lakeland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 7:44 PM >> Subject: [WISPA] Re: Anyone using Exalt radios???? >> >> >>> Personally I couldn't be happier. They work as expected and stated. >>> They have relatively straight forward GUI interfaces, you can move >>> the center of the channel to any 1 Mhz. division, it works on 5.3, >>> you can get a straight indoor only unit or an outdoor unit with >>> integral antenna >>> or N connectors, they have 2 year warranty. OOB replacement >>> guarantee, >>> the inegral antenna has electronic polarity control, it can syc all >>> units on a msite so you can use one channel, the gps option is very >>> reasonable and you don't need a central controller or cabling between >>> radios. User defined latency and channel bandwidth as well as free >>> upgrade to 5.4 when it becomes available. >>> The advertised throughput on a 200 Mhz radio is 100 Mb true throughput >>> in each direction port to port. The radio throughput is based on a 64 >>> Mhz channel. >>> Now lets address the Motorola Orthogon for a minute. It has no GPS >>> syncing. It has no integral fiber interface. The fiber "kit" is an >>> option that allows for cable runs in excess of POE lengths but you still >>> need external power. I can put a media converter and external power >>> on >>> a Exalt radio also. >>> As far as the bandwidth is concerned the Orthogon still uses 60 MHz to >>> give full bandwidth. It just uses 30 on vertical and 30 on horizontal. >>> On a positive note for Exalt the C/I is much better on the Exalt radio >>> which ultimately guarantees better distance in noisy environments. >>> The pricin on the Connectronics site is MSRP. You can get it quite a >>> bit lower... >>> -B- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> John Scrivner writes: >>> >>>> Bob, >>>> Tell us about your experiences with these. Work as advertised? >>>> Approximate cost per pair? Thanks, >>>> Scriv Bob Moldashel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Just looking for experiences.... Personally I think they rock but >>>>> just >>>>> looking to see if anyone else has any pros/cons.... www.exaltcom.com >>>>> 100 Mb FD 2.4 Ghz. radio. Hmmmm..... I bet Marlon would love to >>>>> have one of these for a neighbor! :-) -B- >>>> >>>> -- >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> > > > -- > Bob Moldashel > Lakeland Communications, Inc. > Broadband Deployment Group > 1350 Lincoln Avenue > Holbrook, New York 11741 USA > 800-479-9195 Toll Free US & Canada > 631-585-5558 Fax > 516-551-1131 Cell > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
