Mac,

Great insight. But the truth is we are not just wireless alcholics with an addiction to build. There is a reason we (WISPs) keep building. The reason is.... after considering the impact the new tower build would have, we can truthfully look at the big picture and say that our company is better off with the tower than without, from an evaluation/financial point of view. If a move brings a company in a positive direction, why not do it? The new tower never costs as much as the early ones. Everytime a new tower is built, new opportunity gets created, but old costs get shared, such as the upfront fixed costs of backbone transit bandwdith and primary overhead office staff. In this business, its hard to stay small.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 3:29 PM
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Gino,


 That's a question that Larsen and I have been hunting an answer to for a
couple years. We both said we were going to sit back and collect some of our
initial investments back over a year ago. I know Larsen is still hanging
gear in every town along the 3 States he borders (get 'em son) and also
created one of the longest "production" wireless backhaul links (60+ miles) of anybody anywhere that I am aware of. I too have built 7 new towers in the last few months and built out about a dozen new towns and gone to all fiber.


My point is this - - - it's a vicious circle! When is enough - enough? We
get a new tower up and swear "this is the last", but from that tower there
is another community that is yet without internet connectivity and just one more little hop will get them caught! It's a never ending story - - - looks
like we need a "wireless anonymous" group to help us break the cycle!!

If you find the cure - - send Larsen and myself a double dose.


Mac




-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:51 PM
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The question I always ask myself is when to stop upgrading and expanding..

Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 12:08 PM
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Ditto, and we make enough profit to roll the profit back into our
business in network upgrades, etc.

If I stopped my upgrades and just collected money, I could lay someone
off and make a very handsome roi.

George

John Scrivner wrote:
Yes. We earn salary and profits. It is not as much as I would like but
our company is profitable and has been for 9 years.
Scriv


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Is this all such a big deal?  You guys actually have profits!?

Brian

John Scrivner wrote:

I do not think any WISPs here really know the answer to this. What is
needed is an answer from an accountant. If anyone on here is a CPA
and can share what the rules are I would be glad to see them. I do
not believe that simply drawing profits from a S corp WISP as opposed
to taking a salary is tax evasion. In a S corp you pay taxes for
profits same as you do for payroll. Where you might have a problem is
with unemployment insurance, social security, workmans comp, etc.
Those are based on payroll. Profits are not in the calculation.
Essentially you are dodging those when you do not take a salary.
Scriv



Charles Wu wrote:

<snip>
Zero.  When the CEO is also the primary investor, and the company is
an S-corp or LLC, why pay payroll tax, when you can just take a
repayment of loan?
The salary of the CEO can be meaningless unless also disclosed
wether they have an equity position or not, and of what caliber.
</snip>

B/c when you get audited by the IRS (which for any small business,
is just a
matter of time), you will FINED for tax evasion...

-Charles

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Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 8:55 PM
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Hi,

Just taking a quick survey... answer if you can, but be honest... ;)

What is the salary of the CEO of your ISP? Even if you can share the
percentage of that salary compared to annual gross revenue...

Travis
Microserv
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