u got it. Verizons of the world are out there saying $100k for a way to stop terrorism ? NO PROBLEM!
"Those little guys must be sucked up and put out of business, so we can prevent another 9/11" argh what a crock of $**7! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 5:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Calea - what will we need to provide ? I see little benefit to protesting the Calea/DOJ judgement, as compliance is a mute point, if it were easy and cost effective to comply. A preferred method to proceed is to lobby for what changes in standards they need to make to allow it to be easy to conform. DOJ doesn't concern itself with "HOW" to conform, they aren't ISPs and knowledgeable in our business. Its our job to educate them on our capabilties. I'd argue that its teh TELCOs, that are the enemies on this issue, that have been very involved with the officials on this matter, and probably purposefully did not lobby for standards that would be easy for their competitors to comply to. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "wispa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Calea - what will we need to provide ? > On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:47:20 -0400, Peter R. wrote >> During the Brand-X Supreme Court case, the DEA, the FBI and the DOJ >> clearly spelled out that ISP and VoIP traffic would need to be CALEA >> compliant. It isn't the FCC, it is the DOJ. > > Oh, please. The DOJ doesn't write law. the DOJ wants EVERYTHING. If it > were up to them, they would intercept every packet of data and every voice > transmission, and they've all but said so. Too bad. That's wrong, and > that's the truth. > >> >> Your statements take us back to all the "lobbying efforts" that >> CLEC's and ISP's have ever done: Don't regulate us - just them. >> That's not how it works. > > If you'd read what I say, instead knee-jerk reaction, you'd know this was > wrong. > >> >> You want UL spectrum. You want more of it. >> But this is not a one-way street. > > I have to give up my constitutional rights to get the FCC to carry out > it's > assigned duties? Hell no! > >> >> To get you have to give. >> You have to fill out your forms without whining so much. >> You have to be able to help the Department of Justice catch the bad >> guys - without the bad guys knowing. > > Again, here we go again. You make up stuff and then slam me for it. I > don't > get it. CALEA is not applicable law. It is WRONG for the feds to require > US > to pay for what they want. Period. > > Do you not get that? That's why CALEA contained a half billion dollars, > to > fund the changes that they wanted implemented, and it was a VERY NARROW > LAW. > > Just because the DOJ and FBI suddenly show up and ask for the moon is no > reason under the sun to even suggest we should go along with it. They > don't > write the law, AND CONGRESS DID NOT WRITE ANY LAW TO APPLY TO US!!!!! The > FCC has misapplied via "opinion" that it does, when it does not. > >> >> Polling the WISPs. Yeah! They'd answer. You can't get them to fill >> out a poll or a form. > > Not when it comes to begging the feds to do us in, of course not. > >> >> When Patrick says herding long tail cats in a roomful of rocking >> chairs, he is almost accurate. >> (It is actually MUCH harder than that in this "industry"). >> >> The squeaky wheels are few but much larger than the silent majority. >> But typically they can ruin it for the lot. > > RUIN???? Ruin what? Do you ACTUALLY think all this stupid brown-nosing > is > going to buy us something? Please. That's being more gullible than the > emperor's cheering squad. > > Those of us who have the guts to speak up are the only ones who appear to > have ANY interest in your future at all. > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > Mark Koskenmaki <> Neofast, Inc > Broadband for the Walla Walla Valley and Blue Mountains > 541-969-8200 > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
