Or - shape EVERYTHING. You don't want limits? You can easily set a burst limit, not like a typical one, but using long averages and multiple shapes. Like for instance:
10M burst, for 10 seconds, then 5M burst for 30 seconds, after that you take it down to 1-2Mbps for say 30 more seconds. But you don't tell the customer this... On a MT router, I noticed shaping on conventional shared cable broadband - you can literally watch the shape on a big download. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] P2P Apps Going Legit? > Mark Nash wrote: > > I had a customer tell me yesterday that he uses his Gnutella program to do unlimited downloads from a paid site. I've used the Mikrotik routers (p2p queue set to 64k) to block this and other programs, so it's not working now for the customer. I want to allow for paid downloads, but not P2P filesharing. > > The most likely scenario here is the one that's already been mentioned a > couple times - that your customer, basically, was conned. At this time, > I don't know of any (legal) services that operate that way. > > "At this time" being the key phrase. > > Over time, this WILL become an issue. Bram Cohen (the author of the > popular BitTorrent software) has made deals with a number of media > centers, such that bittorrent.com is now has a non-trivial amount of > legal content that users download using P2P software. And there are the > classic examples like Linux ISOs and archive.org. There were rumors that > Apple might integrate some kind of P2P software into their iTV (now > AppleTV) product, to speed the download of purchased programming. I > don't think anything came of that, but still. > > Like it or not, a lot of our customers want to use P2P software, and > we're basically out of time for the old "everything you do is illegal" > speech, because that's provably not true any longer. (Yes, it's still > 95% true, but that's a quibble.) > > Generally, I tell users that I really don't care what they're > downloading, only how they're downloading it. A brief speech on how RF, > as a shared medium, works, and most customers are at least somewhat > understanding. (Note: not necessarily "happy," just "understanding.") > > As a tangent to this, has anyone deployed a sizeable wireless network > that uses, say, Mikrotik's M3P or something similar for the end-users? > If so, does it actually make P2P usable for end-users without making > everyone's connections feel sluggish? > > David Smith > MVN.net > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.15/728 - Release Date: 3/20/2007 > > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
