Outstanding find! I checked out the summary you posted on your site. Equipped with patent numbers I know how to access them from uspto well enough ... and they're free (have almost 40 issued under my name). I can fully understand how a company can independently develop and use an algorithm that another company has patented (the finding that the infringement was not "willful"). However, I've been in the industry long enough to know that "you got'ta check" before you ship a product if you intend to compete with big fish that take IPR seriously. Only a newbie (completely unfamiliar with the concept of IPR) could make such an eggregious error (which should indicate as well as anything that Vonage is, in fact, newbie).
Never used pacer. Looked it up (http://pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/) and it looks interesting. I'd love to read the verdict just for interests sake. Do you need a separate email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as your post reads? Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter R. To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vonage I tracked down the patents and the verdict. I had to dig through PACER and pay about $4 to get it (you pay for every page that you query on PACER. To register you have to give a valid credit card). Details here: http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2007/03/case-106-cv-00682-cmh-brp.html If you want a copy of the verdict, email me your name and contact info and I'll send you the 28 pages of techno-babble as opined by U.S. District Court Judge Claude Hilton. Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. <----- see Info is in the name :) Rich Comroe wrote: >I didn't find anything that listed the patents in question. Most were only business articles, but one article did "summarized" the patent topics. > >http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/business/20060619-1055-vonage-verizonsuit.html > >"Verizon charged that Vonage is infringing on at least seven of its patents regarding Internet phone service, a technology known as voice over Internet protocol, or VoIP. The patents include inventions related to gateway interfaces between a packet-switched and circuit-switched network, billing and fraud detection, call services such as call forwarding and voicemail and methods related to Wi-Fi handset use in a VoIP network, the lawsuit said." > >BTW - cursory search at http://www.uspto.gov/ lists Verizon as receiving "57" issued patents in total since 2001. It's not a huge number if you were inclined to search to see what they got granted that matched the topics listed in the article above. All issued patents are public record and can be downloaded from uspto. The trick is narrowing down the list (or finding the issued numbers for the patents in question). Does anyone know where to find the court actions? That would surely list the patent numbers at issue. > >Rich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: George Rogato > To: WISPA General List > Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 5:50 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Vonage > > > What patents did Vonage infringe upon. > What does Verizon have a patter on concerning voip and how does that > effect the future? > > -- > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/