You make it sound like that can happen in a matter of minutes or even
seconds.  Not likely the case.  All the while your clients are getting hosed
due to the negligence of another.

Best,

Brad



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Adam Kennedy
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WISP Peering

That's where peering agreements come into play.

Last case scenario you (WISP-A) just want to drop peering entirely but 
WISP-B doesn't stop advertising your route, then call up whoever their 
upstream is and talk to their NOC. If the /20 is your allocation from 
ARIN, and you aren't peering anymore, explain the situation to the NOC 
and they can stop accepting your /20 from WISP-B's advertisement.

Easy as that.

Travis Johnson wrote:
> This is not correct. Let's do an example:
> 
> WISP-A is getting bandwidth from Provider A. They have a /20 network. 
> Provider A has to allow that /20 in their BGP filters.
> WISP-B is getting bandwidth from Provider B. They have a /20 network. 
> Provider B has to allow that /20 in their BGP fitlers.
> 
> WISP-A and WISP-B setup a peering, but also to allow failover if either 
> Provider goes down. Thus Provider A and Provider B both have to allow 
> BOTH /20 networks in their BGP filters.
> 
> Now, for some unknown reason, WISP-B decides to start announcing 
> WISP-A's /20 network as local to their network. BGP will become very 
> confused, and thus WISP-A will essentially be down. All of this with a 
> single network entry by WISP-B... they just wiped out WISP-A.
> 
> Travis
> Microserv
> 
> Zack Kneisley wrote:
>> On 4/26/07, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> My personal concern would be turning over my IP block to my competition.
>>> They would have to have enough control to allow BGP routes from their
>>> upstream. Technically they could misconfigure a router accidentally and
>>> take your entire network down. :(
>>
>> That is what BGP filtering and prefixes are about. Either you peer
>> correctly or incorrectly and don't peer. No turning over blocks
>> happen.
>>
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Mike Hammett wrote:
>>> > If they're network peering, they'd be connecting each other's networks
>>> > together to exchange local traffic that way.  They could also have an
>>> > alliance where if someone's Internet feeds go out, they use another
>>> > WISP's Internet feed until restoration.
>>> >
>>
>> This is great and what a reliable network is made of.

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Fax: 888-293-3995
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