You might also look at a proprietary PoE solution, or maybe regular 48v PoE with a DC-DC (48v to 12v) convertor on the end. You could also look a solar.

FWIW, there is a 60 watt injector available (Mfg Part #: TR60A-POE-L) : http://www.wlanmall.com/high-power-watt-power-over-ethernet-injector-lightning-protection-p-727.html

On Aug 2 2007, Mike Hammett wrote:

They make ATX power supplies with DC inputs, but I don't know if PoE can pass enough wattage for them.

Have you seen any of the RB announcements?


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link & Pacwireless


Hi,

Now you are understanding what the rest of us have been going thru for the past couple of years. ;)

The RB532 is underpowered for big backhaul links, yet any of the mini-itx or micro-itx boards need 120VAC or a seperate power cable and a power converter inside the box. Running LMR cable works for short runs (20-30ft), but after that it just limits the signal too much.

What we really need is an 800mhz Routerboard in the same form factor as the current RB532. :)

Travis
Microserv

Jory Privett wrote:
I have been doing some research and these seem great, almost. The main problem I have is power where it needs to be. If I could get 120v then I could easily use one of these units or a standard PC. Most of my sights are on water towers so there is no electricity at the top of them and the radio ahs to be feed with PoE. I have tried putting the radios lower and using LMR cableis to the antennas but have had bad experiences with that in the past.

Jory Privett
WCCS

----- Original Message ----- From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nstreme2 Link & Pacwireless


Jory Privett wrote:
These look very interesting. Does anyone have any recomendations/experinces with any in particular? Do they support the MikroTik RouterOS?

Just get something fanless and low-power, and you're good. I usually suggest "fanless" because you can get the whole No Moving Parts assembly, which means fewer things that can break; the benefit of that should be obvious :) Low-power is optional, but usually goes along with fanless, because otherwise your computer could cook itself.

The biggest downside is probably the "some assembly required" bit - you're basically buying all the parts for a small desktop computer, and assembling them yourself. There's a bit of learning curve even if you've worked with desktop PCs before (those power supplies especially are tiny, and can be annoying to work with). Your first system will probably take an hour or two to assemble.

It will be a bit bigger than a Routerboard 500 - probably six inches square, two or three inches tall. And you'll need "real" power, as you can't usually run these with POE.

RouterOS is available for "standard" x86 hardware, which most mini-ITX boards would be.

You may also want to look at the new Soekris 5501. I haven't tested RouterOS on it, but Soekris is standard x86 hardware, so problems are pretty unlikely. It's a single-board unit, so you don't have to assemble anything; you'll be getting a bit less performance at about the same price, but you don't have to spend an hour putting bits together.

mini-box.com has a good selection of bits and pieces; I've bought from them before and they took good care of me.

David Smith
MVN.net
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